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The metagame with KTK (Update October 8th)



 
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derflippi
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 4:33 pm    Post subject: The metagame with KTK (Update October 8th) Reply with quote

It's been clear that

Courser of Kruphix and Elspeth, Suns Champion will be at the top after this rotation. But what else changed?

I'll regularly post metagame updates (data) here.

All Standard(T2) tournaments since the rotation up to September 25th:

(% metagame)
11,9 Abzan Rock
11,1 Esper Control
8,96 Temur Midrange
8,21 Mardu AggroRabble
8,21 Mono Green Devotion
4,48 BW Aggro
4,48 UG Yisan
3,73 GB Graveyard
3,73 WUR Control
3,73 Jeskai Aggro
2,99 Rabble Red
2,99 Mono B AggroSorin
2,99 Abzan Aggro
2,99 RG Midrange
2,99 Ascendancy Combo

16,4 Other decks

Personally, I was impressed by Temur Midrange, a deck which abuses Temur Ascendancy quite effectively.

Abzan Rock was obvious to appear, and Esper Control is always around. Another completely new deck is UG Yisan, a deck surrounding Yisan, the Bard from M15.

Now my question? In time, players will realize what decks are great and what decks aren't. What decks will be on top of this list in a week or two?


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Duodax



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 25, 2014 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Abzan Midrange and aggro decks which can be faster.
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GreenBear



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a standpoint of looking at potential brokenness, yisan has the most potential. It will certainly strengthen also more than any other card, with each new set that is added.
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_Godica



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yisan was not playable in rtr+ths. I doubt it will be much better in ths+ktk.
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GreenBear



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It still has more potential than any other card regardless, as it does something that commonly leads to banning's i.e a tutor effect, plus form of card advantage. Nothing else has much potential for being broken, as they are just not doing broken things. I doubt it will be as it's a creature and creature's are the least broken of all card types, but I can not see anything else with the same sort of potential. Ie, could you class it as an engine card ie skullclamp jace the mind sculptor. Yes but its a lot slower than both. A tutor effect yes, just count the number of these on banned lists and you will see this is a serial repeat broken effect. A form of card advantage yes, but once again it's probably to slow.

It's also under 4cc, there are a total of 4 cards on the type 1 banned list with a cmc of 4 or greater gifts ungiven, memory jar, yawgamoths bargain and mind's desire. Only one at 4 gifts ungiven which is both a tutor and card advantage, bargain is also an engine card. It's a bit deceptive to class yisan as a 3 drop though.
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_Godica



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bogbrew Witch is a tutor, card advantage, and an engine. Do you think that if it cost 2B instead of 3B it would have been broken? Do you think it would even have been playable?
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GreenBear



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No but yisan is more powerful than that.
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saurgoth



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 26, 2014 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sticking a Yisan goes a long way to winning a game, but he'll be in the format until he rotates out. Lin Sivvi was never banned in standard, and that was back when having a legend on your side of the board prevented your opponent from having the same one.
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Duodax



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PostPosted: Sat Sep 27, 2014 1:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ehm Lin also featured counterspells which deserve that name and not cripple instants like today.
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derflippi
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update from October 2nd

(% metagame)
10,8 Abzan Rock
9,66 Esper Control
9,09 Mono Green Devotion
7,95 Mardu AggroRabble
7,39 Temur Midrange
6,25 UG Yisan
5,11 Jeskai Aggro
5,11 RG Midrange
4,55 BW Aggro
2,84 GB Graveyard
2,84 WUR Control
2,84 Rabble Red
2,84 Mono B AggroSorin
2,84 Abzan Aggro

19,89 other decks


The biggest rise into the metagame was the RG Midrange deck. Here's an example decklist:

//NAME: Untitled Deck
4 Temple of Abandon
4 Wooded Foothills
9 Forest
6 Mountain
4 Courser of Kruphix
2 Boon Satyr
4 Sylvan Caryatid
4 Stormbreath Dragon
4 Polukranos, World Eater
4 Elvish Mystic
4 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Crater's Claws
1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
1 Xenagos, the Reveler
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
3 Magma Jet
1 Nissa, Worldwaker
// Sideboard:
SB: 1 Xenagos, the Reveler
SB: 1 Chandra, Pyromaster
SB: 2 Hornet Nest
SB: 1 Setessan Tactics
SB: 1 Bow of Nylea
SB: 1 Hunt the Hunter
SB: 2 Destructive Revelry
SB: 2 Circle of Flame
SB: 1 Back to Nature
SB: 3 Magma Spray

The reason is obvious when looking at all decks win percentages.
It won more than double the number of games it lost. Meanwhile Abzan Rock, the still most played decks won only 55% of its games.
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derflippi
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2014 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update of October 8th

(%) Deckarchetype
16,9 Abzan Rock
8,48 Esper Control
8,48 Mono Green Devotion
7,14 Mardu AggroRabble
5,80 Temur Midrange
5,36 Jeskai Aggro
4,91 UG Yisan
4,91 GB(x) Graveyard
4,46 RG Midrange
3,57 BW Aggro
3,13 WUR Control
3,13 Abzan Aggro
2,23 Rabble Red
2,23 Mono B AggroSorin
2,23 Purphoros Token
2,23 WR Control

14,73 Other decks


There's even more Abzan Rock decks than before, as well as GB(x) Graveyard deck, whose intersection with Abzan Rock is very big.

If you want to win a Standard(T2) tournament irl, be ready to play several rounds against Siege Rhino, Courser of Kruphix and Sylvan Caryatid.

Maybe Jeskai Aggro can do that. Jeskai Aggro grabbed a few spots in the top-played decks ranking recently. Here's an example decklist of what i categorized as "Jeskai Aggro".

4 Temple of Triumph
4 Temple of Epiphany
3 Battlefield Forge
2 Island
2 Mountain
2 Plains
2 Flooded Strand
2 Mystic Monastery
3 Shivan Reef
1 Temple of Enlightenment
3 Goblin Rabblemaster
4 Seeker of the Way
4 Mantis Rider
1 Chandra, Pyromaster
2 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
3 Banishing Light
4 Jeskai Charm
1 Dig Through Time
2 Steam Augury
4 Lightning Strike
3 Magma Jet
4 Stoke the Flames
SB: 1 Sarkhan, the Dragonspeaker
SB: 2 Magma Spray
SB: 2 Ashcloud Phoenix
SB: 2 Anger of the Gods
SB: 2 Narset, Enlightened Master
SB: 1 Keranos, God of Storms
SB: 3 Disdainful Stroke
SB: 2 Deflecting Palm


My next update will come in a week. Until then, community, please provide us ways to deal with Abzan Rock.


(on public request, a picture of Siege Rhino)[/img]
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derflippi
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update of October 17th:

(+) Deckname (change to October 8th)
16,82 Abzan Rock (-0,08 )
11,21 Jeskai Aggro (+5,85)
7,79 Mono Green Devotion (-0,69)
7,17 Mardu AggroRabble (+0,03)
6,23 Esper Control (-2,25)
4,36 Temur Midrange (-1,44)
4,05 RG Midrange (-0,30)
3,74 GB(x) Graveyard (-1,17)
3,43 UG Yisan (-1,48 )
3,43 WUR Control (+0,30 )
3,12 Abzan Aggro (-0,01)
28,65 Other decks

With the Standard Pro Tour on Hawaii, I expected things to change. Jeskai Aggro had a good showing at the PT and magic-league players quickly followed that. Mono Green Devotion and Abzan Rock were already on top of the list before the Pro Tour.

Probably because Jeskai Aggro and other Aggro deck are really popular on magic-league, UB Control couldn't make it to the top yet. It is true that its matchup against Midrange decks like Abzan Rock or RG Midrange is excellent, but too many Jeskai Charms, Stoke in Flames and Weenies give it a hard time.

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