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Burning Pyromancer in standard


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Jelin



Joined: 06 Jan 2011
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:31 pm    Post subject: Burning Pyromancer in standard Reply with quote

here is a new version of what looks to be a solid pyromancer deck hit me with some ideas

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [GP] Steam Vents
4 [ISD] Sulfur Falls
7 [M14] Mountain (1)
2 [M14] Mutavault
6 [M14] Island (4)

// Creatures
4 [M14] Young Pyromancer
2 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
4 [DGM] Nivix Cyclops
3 [RTR] Goblin Electromancer

// Spells
4 [FNM] Pillar of Flame
3 [FNM] Shock
2 [M14] Divination
3 [AVR] Battle Hymn
2 [RTR] Mizzium Mortars
2 [AVR] Burn at the Stake
2 [TSP] Think Twice
4 [FNM] Searing Spear
2 [ISD] Past in Flames

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [AVR] Bonfire of the Damned
SB: 2 [M14] Negate
SB: 2 [M13] Mark of Mutiny
SB: 3 [DDJ] Izzet Charm
SB: 2 [DPA] Essence Scatter
SB: 3 [GTC] Skullcrack
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Jelin



Joined: 06 Jan 2011
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

revised edition Razz// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [GP] Steam Vents
4 [ISD] Sulfur Falls
7 [M14] Mountain (1)
2 [M14] Mutavault
6 [M14] Island (4)

// Creatures
4 [M14] Young Pyromancer
3 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
4 [DGM] Nivix Cyclops
3 [RTR] Goblin Electromancer

// Spells
4 [FNM] Pillar of Flame
4 [FNM] Shock
2 [RTR] Mizzium Mortars
4 [TSP] Think Twice
4 [FNM] Searing Spear
2 [ISD] Past in Flames
3 [RTR] Izzet Charm

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [RTR] Izzet Charm
SB: 3 [AVR] Bonfire of the Damned
SB: 2 [M14] Negate
SB: 3 [M13] Mark of Mutiny
SB: 3 [GTC] Skullcrack
SB: 3 [M14] Essence Scatter
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Livermush



Joined: 05 Aug 2012
Posts: 319

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to write a little bit about your deck when posting decklists here. Write about what cards you chose and why. Write about your matchups you've played in testing and the like.
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warwizard87



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 201

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seems almost like your trying to make a izzit blitz deck, try this shell http://www.channelfireball.com/articles/woo-brews-izzet-blitz-updated-and-budgeted/. Its a good start to what you seem to want to be doing also use dynacharge not banners raised if your looking for that effect.
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Jelin



Joined: 06 Jan 2011
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok the deck seems pretty solid vs aggro and has answers for control i really like the idea of adding white go USA! so heres a new revised list

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [GP] Steam Vents
4 [ISD] Sulfur Falls
4 [DIS] Hallowed Fountain
4 [M13] Glacial Fortress
4 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
3 [ISD] Clifftop Retreat

// Creatures
4 [M14] Young Pyromancer
2 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
2 [DGM] Nivix Cyclops
3 [RTR] Goblin Electromancer
2 [ISD] Geist of Saint Traft
3 [RTR] Guttersnipe

// Spells
4 [FNM] Pillar of Flame
3 [TSP] Think Twice
4 [FNM] Searing Spear
1 [AVR] Bonfire of the Damned
3 [RTR] Izzet Charm
3 [GTC] Boros Charm
3 [DDK] Faithless Looting

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [DGM] Nivix Cyclops
SB: 2 [AVR] Bonfire of the Damned
SB: 2 [M14] Negate
SB: 2 [M13] Mark of Mutiny
SB: 1 [ISD] Moorland Haunt
SB: 2 [DGM] Ral Zarek
SB: 2 [DGM] Warleader's Helix
SB: 3 [GTC] Boros Reckoner


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gdhack



Joined: 12 Aug 2008
Posts: 118

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"You need to write a little bit about your deck when posting decklists here. Write about what cards you chose and why. Write about your matchups you've played in testing and the like."


Quit being an a$$hole and just let us post decks up here for what ever reason we fancy. Seeing as there isn't to much traffic around here lately anyways.
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warwizard87



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 201

PostPosted: Sun Jul 14, 2013 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gdhack: he wasn't being a ****, he was being constructive. You are acting Like a **** with that comment. Its a fact a thread will generate more discussion if the initial post has more info.

Jelin: play woos deck twenty matches and get a feel for it before u make such drastic changes. His deck is very consistent and quick. I'd like to fit pyromancer in but your build is still a bit unfocused. I can't tell if it wins by creatues or burn. Also feeling of dread is Incredable in this style of deck.
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Jelin



Joined: 06 Jan 2011
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2013 12:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks wizard i have tested and wanted to add 1 maybe 2 to the board or 1 MD and 1 SB but i just started playing again after 3 years and couldn't remember name even though i have it in a legacy build i think or maybe another standard deck lol i want it to be based on creatures which is why an original version i made had hellrider but bonfire and verdict = death so i tried to add the burn in for control vs aggro decks and my crits for the win or crits to weaken and burn to death for control match up it is a work in progress and may never be tier 1 but i like the idea and will keep testing this until im at least comfortable to play enough here with. prolly never a big tournament in real life maybe FNM when I get my card pool back up
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BIRDYYY



Joined: 25 Jan 2006
Posts: 158

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are all block constructed strength...dont use type 2 cards lmaoo cause then youll have to fight other type 2 cards.
these builds will get rolled over by any type 2 that has a plan besides sitting there doing nothing.
im not even trolling at all, just being straight forward
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thedarkness



Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 580

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

warwizard87 wrote:
Gdhack: he wasn't being a ****, he was being constructive. You are acting Like a **** with that comment. Its a fact a thread will generate more discussion if the initial post has more info.

Jelin: play woos deck twenty matches and get a feel for it before u make such drastic changes. His deck is very consistent and quick. I'd like to fit pyromancer in but your build is still a bit unfocused. I can't tell if it wins by creatues or burn. Also feeling of dread is Incredable in this style of deck.
Felt this was worth quoting since you only appear to have read part of it, Jelin.

PLAY WOO'S DECK FOR 20 MATCHES.

It's like this one, but better. Google Izzet Blitz. That is the deck you want.
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warwizard87



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 201

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BIRDYYY wrote:
These are all block constructed strength...dont use type 2 cards lmaoo cause then youll have to fight other type 2 cards.
these builds will get rolled over by any type 2 that has a plan besides sitting there doing nothing.
im not even trolling at all, just being straight forward


Kind of bird, woos build is powerful when played right, rarely did I feel a game was unwinnable, and when I did lose I was able to pin point my mistakes fairly easily. I'd still be playing it but its a hard deck to play optimally every game.
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thedarkness



Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 580

PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

warwizard87 wrote:
BIRDYYY wrote:
These are all block constructed strength...dont use type 2 cards lmaoo cause then youll have to fight other type 2 cards.
these builds will get rolled over by any type 2 that has a plan besides sitting there doing nothing.
im not even trolling at all, just being straight forward


Kind of bird, woos build is powerful when played right, rarely did I feel a game was unwinnable, and when I did lose I was able to pin point my mistakes fairly easily. I'd still be playing it but its a hard deck to play optimally every game.
All of this. The games that are unwinnable if you play them correctly are very rare, but they DO exist, especially against the harder matchups. And when I noticed that 74 of 75 cards in the deck were RTR Block Constructed, I shat exactly one brick. But the deck is strong, versatile, and most importantly, extremely fun, even if it is also difficult and demanding to pilot correctly.
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Jelin



Joined: 06 Jan 2011
Posts: 25

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK been testing this some bit plays well vs aggro surprisingly added the guttersnipe so when I burn there small crits i can still hit them with 2 and it helps a lot vs aristocrats but that is a tough matchup elves is a race which is lost unless u hit bonfire needs more testing but looking for some ideas have not seen much control playing standard lately either bant is a 50/50 pending on draws

4 [ON] Flooded Strand
3 [A] Tundra
4 [TE] Wasteland
1 [LG] Karakas
3 [B] Volcanic Island
4 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
1 [B] Plateau

// Creatures
4 [ISD] Geist of Saint Traft
2 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
4 [ISD] Delver of Secrets/Insectile Aberration
3 [TO] Grim Lavamancer

// Spells
3 [AL] Force of Will
4 [B] Swords to Plowshares
2 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
4 [IA] Brainstorm
4 [NE] Daze
4 [SC] Stifle
2 [LRW] Ponder
4 [B] Lightning Bolt

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
SB: 1 [AL] Force of Will
SB: 1 [CST] Disenchant
SB: 2 [A] Red Elemental Blast
SB: 1 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 2 [CMD] Flusterstorm
SB: 2 [PS] Meddling Mage
SB: 2 [FD] Engineered Explosives
SB: 2 [ALA] Relic of Progenitus
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thedarkness



Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 580

PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jelin wrote:
OK been testing this some bit plays well vs aggro surprisingly added the guttersnipe so when I burn there small crits i can still hit them with 2 and it helps a lot vs aristocrats but that is a tough matchup elves is a race which is lost unless u hit bonfire needs more testing but looking for some ideas have not seen much control playing standard lately either bant is a 50/50 pending on draws

4 [ON] Flooded Strand
3 [A] Tundra
4 [TE] Wasteland
1 [LG] Karakas
3 [B] Volcanic Island
4 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
1 [B] Plateau

// Creatures
4 [ISD] Geist of Saint Traft
2 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
4 [ISD] Delver of Secrets/Insectile Aberration
3 [TO] Grim Lavamancer

// Spells
3 [AL] Force of Will
4 [B] Swords to Plowshares
2 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
4 [IA] Brainstorm
4 [NE] Daze
4 [SC] Stifle
2 [LRW] Ponder
4 [B] Lightning Bolt

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
SB: 1 [AL] Force of Will
SB: 1 [CST] Disenchant
SB: 2 [A] Red Elemental Blast
SB: 1 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 2 [CMD] Flusterstorm
SB: 2 [PS] Meddling Mage
SB: 2 [FD] Engineered Explosives
SB: 2 [ALA] Relic of Progenitus
Please use punctuation. I had to read that 4 times to figure out where the sentences ended. I'm too tired for that.
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warwizard87



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 201

PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 12:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jelin wrote:
OK been testing this some bit plays well vs aggro surprisingly added the guttersnipe so when I burn there small crits i can still hit them with 2 and it helps a lot vs aristocrats but that is a tough matchup elves is a race which is lost unless u hit bonfire needs more testing but looking for some ideas have not seen much control playing standard lately either bant is a 50/50 pending on draws

4 [ON] Flooded Strand
3 [A] Tundra
4 [TE] Wasteland
1 [LG] Karakas
3 [B] Volcanic Island
4 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
1 [B] Plateau

// Creatures
4 [ISD] Geist of Saint Traft
2 [ISD] Snapcaster Mage
4 [ISD] Delver of Secrets/Insectile Aberration
3 [TO] Grim Lavamancer

// Spells
3 [AL] Force of Will
4 [B] Swords to Plowshares
2 [ZEN] Spell Pierce
4 [IA] Brainstorm
4 [NE] Daze
4 [SC] Stifle
2 [LRW] Ponder
4 [B] Lightning Bolt

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [MOR] Vendilion Clique
SB: 1 [AL] Force of Will
SB: 1 [CST] Disenchant
SB: 2 [A] Red Elemental Blast
SB: 1 [NPH] Surgical Extraction
SB: 2 [CMD] Flusterstorm
SB: 2 [PS] Meddling Mage
SB: 2 [FD] Engineered Explosives
SB: 2 [ALA] Relic of Progenitus



Wait what? Why did u post a legacy deck???
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