Banhammer Time!

Shagrath · Joined: 24 Feb 2005 Posts: 241

delver isn't overwhelming as some ppl say. There are plenty of decks that can beat it or at least have a 50-50 chance against it (grixis, rg, ub, flare, etc ). Criers gonna cry..... geez.

struikje · Joined: 11 Mar 2011 Posts: 108

Delver is annoying, powerfull, but will not get banned... It's nowhere near Jace 2.0 or stoneforge

GunsAndDope · Joined: 12 Jul 2011 Posts: 261

What caused us to be discussing this topic anyway? Was there a rumor or an announcement alluding to new bannings?

At any rate, the only thing I could see getting banned would be the new land that hoses counterspells against creatures, and even then, that seems stupid to ban.

EMA · Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 189

cloysterd · Joined: 24 Jan 2007 Posts: 176

Would I like to see bans? Yes. Do I expect to see them? No. But here's hoping Ponder isn't in M13.

mtgsoldier · Joined: 17 Dec 2007 Posts: 56

Ban:

- green sun zenit
-Birthing Pod
-Delver os secrets
-Ponder
-Snapcaster mage
-Primeval Titan
-Cavern of Souls

Result:

-Epic healthy format

NearSideMoon · Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 52

Zeph · Joined: 10 Feb 2007 Posts: 92

Delver has bad or suboptimal matchups IMO. The deck I play never loses against delver unless I get mana screwed, does very well against control and flare, and poorly against ramp and UB Tezzerator. I did very well against Tezz until I added some more tech for Pod-Ramp-Delver, that way I got tech against the most common decks and not against a deck I rarely find.

I know Delver is a pain in the ass but you can get around it with a well planned deck adding hate against it but usable against other decks too. I think even when netdecking saves time you need to get creative sometimes and look for solutions (a little of creative tech)... don't be lazy people... try to think for yourselves...

massOass · Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 50

If delver is making up more than half of the meta game, then play a U/R version of Delver which destroys the U/W, U/Rg, U/G and U/B variants. 4 gutshots, 4 bonfire, 4 pillar with Snappy is a good way of keeping opposing delvers and snappys off the board. Even helps with Phant. Images. The other 40 or 30 percent of the meta, is R/G aggro, Naya Pod, U/W control, R/G wolfrun, UB Zombies.....all of these decks is vulnerable to gutshots, pillars and bonfires except U/W control. You might find a UB control but that is rare now days.

struikje · Joined: 11 Mar 2011 Posts: 108

how is RG ramp vulnerable to those spells? And are there UG/UB delver lists?

I find the UR delver list way easier to beat (with me playing RG ramp).

EMA · Joined: 15 Feb 2007 Posts: 189

NearSideMoon · Joined: 29 Mar 2012 Posts: 52

GreenBear · Joined: 27 Jul 2010 Posts: 491

If delver was warping the meta game that much, that the best call was delver decks designed to beat other delver decks then that would be an argument for a banning but as far as i am aware its not.

Memmy · Joined: 08 Jul 2006 Posts: 36

From May 17, Trials/Masters and on. Delver has only appeared once in the T4/T8. What are you complaining about. Play "Whipflare", goodbye Geist, Delver, and Snap.