US Constitution in Grave Danger - Al Gore

PhillipJFry · Joined: 14 Jun 2005 Posts: 34

If you are innocent, i.e. have nothing to hide, then who cares if somebody is listning to you? It shouldn't matter.. unless you're doing something you shouldn't be, like planning a terrorism attack.

raging_hobo · Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 80

This isn't a matter of if you are ok with it. This is a matter of it being against the law! Honestly, it would only be a mild annoyance for me to find out someone has been spying on my phone calls, but again that's not the point. This all about a blatant disregard for federal law and the supreme arrogance it takes to keep on breaking that law even after having been caught in the act. So you can spout all of your talk about how he's doing it to protect the country and what not, and really that's all well and good. However, it doesn't make it legal and it doesn't make it right.

This has long since ceased being about left and right, democrat and republican. This is about the rights of American citizens and how they are being stripped away by someone who has displayed little more than constant bumbling.

However, since you're ok with it, I will now begin happily listening in on your phone conversations and stalking you. I hope you don't mind people finding out about that dirty little secret, because it's going to be mine soon.

Ciao

bahamute · Joined: 29 Jun 2005 Posts: 79

The easiest way to solve this whole problem if we allowed The Daily Show and The Colbert Report to be our definitive news source. Who knew politics could be fun?
Also, I could care less if the FBi is wiretapping me. I only use the phone twice a month. All of my phone calls are along the lines of:
"Hey"
"Hey"
"You going to the prerelease?"
"Ya"
"Can I get a ride?"
"Sure"
"Later"

"And remember kids, don't fight terrorists, fight bears."

Superdood · Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 273

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Fanboy · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 424

I think the solution is obvious. We should allow wire tapping!

Bush can be alerted of incoming terrorist activity and know what's going on in the world of terrorism by tapping my phone.

and

I can be alerted of incoming executive activity and know what the hells actually going on in the White House by tapping his phone.

compromises people, compromises. For America.

Koen · Administrator Joined: 10 Mar 2004 Posts: 336

BioMyth · Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 18 Location: Here and T

Is it just me or have I heard this kind of story before? Confused

Kinda sounds like starwars and the fall of the republic(which isn't that far fetched).
It seems the states are being "numbed" to the situations at hand, and frankly,
just dont give a fuck anymore!
So to the problem is acualy getting americans(who are sopposed to be ruling THEMSELVES!!) to get up off there cumffy chairs and actuly say something about it(a few seniters[spelling bad] cant do it alone), and if all else fails, GWBush should be out in a few years(cheany is a differant matter Evil or Very Mad

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quidam · Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 194

Fanboy · Joined: 16 Jun 2005 Posts: 424

actually, we're not even a democracy to begin with. We're a republic. We've never really ever been a democracy for a respected length of time. the true definition is a democratic republic since the masses for for representatives and we have a say if we don't approve (although they can override it)

That's the biggest problem with america. We're so vastly under educated in the proper respects no ones really intelligent to know the obvious reasons why things are fucked up. For instance the liberal conservative debate is actually quite simple dedpite religious beliefs. Here's how it works.

A liberal ONLY means you believe others should be allowed to have diversity, open mindedness, and liberty. Libertarians (i think, if not it should work this way) believe in this so long as it does not directly harm someone with out coherent consent. Conservative ONLY means you believe others should follow a traditional pre set of rules and values, and a good society functions out of conformity versus diversity. The misconception with religion is that they are conservative (because they follow a pre set fo traditional rules). Actually (focusing on the Christain half for now) the book is actually very very liberal since it promotes acceptance and free will. IT's actually a sin to not be accepting and patient for others to eventually convert. IF you get angrya and condemn them your not only chasing away potentials but committing an act of sloth by not bothering to help. Theology aside, basically liberals feel others should have the freedom to do as they want as long as it is not a direct interference and conservatives simply believe people should not have the free will to differ from the norm. Thus conservativism is actually facist, no far stretchs included.

So if we see how America truly operates we are NOT a democracy and we do NOT preech free will and diversity.

As long as wire tapping is allow we're not the America we claim we are, not that we are ever going to be anyways.

Superdood · Joined: 16 Jan 2006 Posts: 273

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