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Enduring Ideal



 
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Comodope



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

google is hard to use, isnt it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOfqmPhmHkA

thats how the old ext deck worked, but as you see, some key cards are missing. The loss of Invasion sac-lands, Orims Chant, Burning Wish, Senseis Divining Top and Pernicious Deed sucks hard but its replacable.

The main keycard missing is Solitary Confinement, which locks (almost) any deck in combination with Dovescape and blue honden/mikokoro to finish with Form of the Dragon.

In Modern you have to be way more creative to create enchantment-combinations, that shut decks down.

For Example Leyline of Sanctity+Form of the Dragon+Privileged Position kills Zoo, but its very likely that its just too slow, cause you dont have Invasion sac-lands for speed, top for efficiency and Solitary Confinement to stop burn and attacking at the same time.
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xJudicatorx



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

We were discussing this in channel the other day and Phyrexian Unlife comes very close to matching Solitary Confinement in conjunction with Form of the Dragon. Other suggested replacement parts were Leyline of Singularity and Lightmine Field.
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struikje



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

how about worship + Near-Death experience for win condition?
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Lynolf



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

struikje wrote:
how about worship + Near-Death experience for win condition?


Enduring Ideal finds enchantments, not creatures. Besides, who would be idiot enough to attack someone into that combo? Mr. Green
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Zits



Joined: 19 May 2008
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lucent Liminid is a Enchantment Creature.
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Lynolf



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zits wrote:
Lucent Liminid is a Enchantment Creature.


... that dies to Lightning Bolt. Good luck searching for even more enchantments to protect him -__-"
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NahHolmes



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ideal was also a T2 deck in Ravnica block, probably worth looking into that list.
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wdeister



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PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the real loss to the deck is Top more than any other card specifically as there are adequate replacements for most of the other cards including Solitary. But replacing top is pretty dang hard.
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