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Bob_A_Wilson



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:11 pm    Post subject: USA: State of the Union Address Reply with quote

and The Republican Followup.

America is split right now. If civil war is gonna happen, Obama will get assassinated tonight.

I'll be editing this post with my thoughts as I watch this historical speech.

9:22 pm est - Notice how Biden blinks a lot and dick on the right looks like he's setting on his keys.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spammy posts like this are not tolerated. Please ensure you have content in your posts. Failure to follow forum rules can result in a potential ban from the forums.
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moscowdemon
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HailEris, ur totally wrong, the country isnt split anywhere close to how it was when the civil war broke out. theres no reason for war within the country to break out and no reason obama would be assassinated at this point in time. thank god we live in america because that would lead to ur death for treason almost anywhere else. if civil war really was about to break out, it would probably be very very obvious. this assumtion of civil war and assassination is very sketchy. its not hated presidents who are killed, its the ones loved greatly by most. JFK and Lincoln were very popular presidents in their times.
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is why the rest of the world thinks americans are dumb
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Bob_A_Wilson



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There really is a civil war going on in the American political system. When Obama got elected, the Republicans joined together under the banner of Fox News and began vying for power. The Republicans won the last election and gained control of congress, effectively being able to stall Obama from passing any legislature. The Republicans basically represent the corporate element of America, the Walmarts and Pepsi-Cos. The Democrats ARE the Government, which is in fact slowly getting more and more socialized. So basically, the corporations are warring for power over the government.

I watched half of Obama's address and then listened to the rest while I played Soldat out of stoned boredom. It was alright, I think his focus on educating people was a good stance because China has out industrialized us, all we can do now is out specialize and I think he realizes that.

Anywho, all the corporations over here have been bought out by the Carnegies and Rockefellers of China's industrial revolution, so effectively, the Republicans represent a mix of domestic and foreign economic interests. It's been like this since the first Korean War, when America got South Korea and China got North Korea. Those are the Rock-Em Sock-Em Robots for America and China. Really, the only x factor in how this plays out is what Russia does, but it'll probably be side with China, conquer the world Alexander the Great-style, stick a knife in the back of China, drink a bottle of vodka.

*~*This has been a stoned rant.*~*
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moscowdemon
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can tell it was a stoned one. civil war in the way u describe it is how politics has pretty much been in this country for a while. the democratic party has socialism values within it but it has been carried through much better than actual socialism did. republicans represent those who are the rich and have massive assets. and especially since the arizona shootings were so recent, i definately doubt a mortal warfare. political warfare through words and the like have always been a part of this country, its what happens when different parties clash. its not always been as open as u view it now, but its been there for a while.
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[PMP]evil



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The country isn't close to civil war, that is flat out foolish. The fact that there is a divide means nothing, that is to be expected in a two-party system. Guess what, government control has always been a debated issue since the writing of the constitution, this is not new.

The civil war was inevitable. The south and north had two different lifestyles from early American history, with one being agricultural an idealizing laid-back life, while the other ran on Ben Franklin's ideas and industrialized. They were fundamentally different and the South's way of life was threatened by expansionism in the mid-50s. Free soilers and radical Whigs formed the republican party and were dedicated towards preventing the expansion of slavery. They were completely isolating the South.

On top of that you have bleeding Kansas, which literally split into two parts before the war started, a "southern-style", pro-slave section with Compton as it's capital and a "nothern", anti-slave section with Topeca. They divided the areas and had actual bloodbaths between the divisions in the state.

Essentially, the USA is nothing like that today. The country generally has the same basic lifestyle now from region to region (within each state there are obviously more agricultural and less agricultural parts) and there is no one unifying issue, such as slavery. It's also not clearly geographically based, so we couldn't have a logical split and one lifestyle/party could not be isolated and contained, like the South was. The issues now are basic political issues, but nothing of this nature.
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moscowdemon
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[PMP]evil wrote:
The country isn't close to civil war, that is flat out foolish. The fact that there is a divide means nothing, that is to be expected in a two-party system. Guess what, government control has always been a debated issue since the writing of the constitution, this is not new.

The civil war was inevitable. The south and north had two different lifestyles from early American history, with one being agricultural an idealizing laid-back life, while the other ran on Ben Franklin's ideas and industrialized. They were fundamentally different and the South's way of life was threatened by expansionism in the mid-50s. Free soilers and radical Whigs formed the republican party and were dedicated towards preventing the expansion of slavery. They were completely isolating the South.

On top of that you have bleeding Kansas, which literally split into two parts before the war started, a "southern-style", pro-slave section with Compton as it's capital and a "nothern", anti-slave section with Topeca. They divided the areas and had actual bloodbaths between the divisions in the state.

Essentially, the USA is nothing like that today. The country generally has the same basic lifestyle now from region to region (within each state there are obviously more agricultural and less agricultural parts) and there is no one unifying issue, such as slavery. It's also not clearly geographically based, so we couldn't have a logical split and one lifestyle/party could not be isolated and contained, like the South was. The issues now are basic political issues, but nothing of this nature.


thank u sir, my point exactly withoutmuch description
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Pushover



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Joined under the banner of Fox News" lololol.

My suggestion is either publish humor columns while stoned, or don't post while stoned.

China (and India) is currently the world's cheap labor, something that seems to move around once in a while (Made in Japan, made in Taiwan).
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Bob_A_Wilson



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

India, the Philipenes, and those other backwoods Asian countries are the source for cheap tech labor. All the actual manufacturing is being done in China.

That being said, India is making more engineers than it is factory workers (not counting the shit load of impoverished as people, because the governments don't, people are tax-paying voters to them).
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Luckra



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moscowdemon wrote:
JFK and Lincoln were very popular presidents in their times.
Um yeah no thats not true. Although I can't say about JFK 100% but Lincoln was definitely the unpopular president that barely won each election because democrats did not vote in full. I'm pretty sure JFK was also pretty unpopular but is remembered as a amazing president even thou he didn't accomplish much.
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Bob_A_Wilson



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFK was popular with the everyone but the Federal Reserve. He shows what happens to you when you **** with the Federal Reserve. Btw, the Federal Reserve has nothing, what so ever, to do with the government at all.
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Avata



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone know when the MBS update for MWS will be out?



(Yes, I know this is a very stupid question, but after reading the OP, it was clear that this is the thread where stupid belongs, so I'm pretty much right on target, imo.)
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Conkisstador



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

War doesn't mean bloodshed neccesarily. The USA is very nearly at war. Republicans have openly declared war on Obama ("we are setting out to win the next election so we can undo everything he has done")
THAT is a declaration of war.
Lincoln was a Liberal Republican. Forget not that the parties were on opposite of their current spectrum.

Bush's endeavors left us so far in debt to China (who was already expanding faster than the universe) and Obama has many very astute policies. If the republicans go on a war against obama and try to undo everything he's done, where do you think that leaves us in 6 years? In 10?

Obama is the emblem of everything this country needed.

PS- It's extremely amusing guessing what level of Social Studies/history/Economics you are each in. Learn to think for yourself rather than regurgitate what you learned in school today.
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moscowdemon
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JFK never had a disapproval rate over 30% and that was for one month of polling in november of 63.his lowest approval rate was 56% which was in september of 63. so under that, id state JFK was quite popular considering his approval rate was over 70% on average...
Lincoln won the 1860 election by nearly 500,000 votes and blew out the competition in the electoral votes. also the 1864 election was won by lincoln by just over 400,000 votes and the electoral voting was a complete blowout there also, 212-21. id consider that quite popular and not "close" by any means.
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