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Vintage Pyromancer (Help Needed)


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Pins4Sins



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 4:45 pm    Post subject: Vintage Pyromancer (Help Needed) Reply with quote

// Lands
4 [b] Badlands
4 [A] Underground Sea
4 [R] Volcanic Island

// Spells
1 [u] Demonic Tutor
4 [ST] Time Warp
4 [M11] Call to Mind
4 [ARE] Serum Visions
4 [AL] Force of Will
1 [b] Sol Ring
1 [A] Timetwister
1 [SH] Mox Diamond
3 [ALA] Cruel Ultimatum
1 [b] Time Walk
1 [b] Mox Jet
1 [b] Ancestral Recall
1 [TE] Lotus Petal
1 [u] Black Lotus
1 [b] Mox Sapphire
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
1 [A] Mox Ruby
1 [u] Mox Emerald
1 [b] Mox Pearl
4 [ZEN] Pyromancer Ascension
4 [M11] Preordain
4 [DIS] Infernal Tutor

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [M10] Duress
SB: 3 [SHM] Vexing Shusher
SB: 3 [GP] Shattering Spree
SB: 3 [ARB] Thought Hemorrhage
SB: 3 [GP] Leyline of the Void

Still in the deck building phase, and so far Time Walk + Call to Mind has been pretty cool. The manabase needs work, and the rest of the deck needs some work. But overall new idea, new combo, and needs a little deck building push.
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

u know time vault + voltaic key does the exact same thing
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Filippy



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really bad idea in a format were you want at least half of your deck to be 1-ofs
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Pins4Sins



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsy wrote:
u know time vault + voltaic key does the exact same thing


Of course I do. I just want help with this verison I have. Help with the mana base etc?
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ik
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filippy wrote:
Really bad idea in a format were you want at least half of your deck to be 1-ofs


You dont WANT half of your deck to be 1-ofs...
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Pins4Sins



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Filippy wrote:
Really bad idea in a format were you want at least half of your deck to be 1-ofs


Do you have a good suggestion? Or you just trolling?
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

play fetchlands instead of BADlands, i dont know why u would want to play pyromancer its so slow when the best take takes infinite turns anyway. you can play regrowth instead of call to mind
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Pins4Sins



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsy wrote:
play fetchlands instead of BADlands, i dont know why u would want to play pyromancer its so slow when the best take takes infinite turns anyway. you can play regrowth instead of call to mind


Thanks for the suggestion I never seen that card before might have to put green into the mana base, and I will add some fetch lands. Could you offer up a manabase including Tolarian Academy with Green for the Regrowth?
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Pins4Sins



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

therorschach wrote:
i think his recommendation is to not play the deck. You don't have many ways to trigger the ascension. Preordain is about the only spell that can put counters on the enchantment. You need to be playing at least 4 sets of 4 ofs to trigger the Ascension, or your deck is dead in the water. And the cruel ultimatums....why are those in there? I can't see them being cast reliably at all.


Serum Visions, Preordain, Infernal Tutor, Force of Will, Time Warp, Call To Mind (Soon to be Regrowth)
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

6 blue fetches
1 island
3 undeground sea
3 volcanic
2 tropical
1 tolarian
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Pins4Sins



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 8:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsy wrote:
6 blue fetches
1 island
3 undeground sea
3 volcanic
2 tropical
1 tolarian


Awesome, so maybe the fetches should be 4 Scalding Tarn and 2 Polluted Delta?
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

doesnt matter as long as theyre blue
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TacoMaster



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 11:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pins4Sins wrote:
gypsy wrote:
u know time vault + voltaic key does the exact same thing


Of course I do. I just want help with this verison I have. Help with the mana base etc?


Play a good deck instead.
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Pins4Sins



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 12:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TacoMaster wrote:
Pins4Sins wrote:
gypsy wrote:
u know time vault + voltaic key does the exact same thing


Of course I do. I just want help with this verison I have. Help with the mana base etc?


Play a good deck instead.


Maybe you can suggest some good cards? Or perhaps some cards that would be good with Pyromancer in T1?
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Alakai



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 30, 2010 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

2 words:
Not playable.
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