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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2325

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You have much better use of Elspeth than Ajani Goldmane.

Use Nest Invader rather than Birds of Paradise.

Use Kozilek's Predator rather than Cultivate.

Go to 4 Martial Coups rather than 2 DoJ 2 MC. Then you can play an early one to get tokens without worrying about not getting another later. Besides, such a play may trick your opponent to believe that you certainly have another in hand, which may be to your advantage if you want him to believe that you do.

You can easily go to 4 Khalni Garden and 4 Stirring Wildwood.
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Nickname7



Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Path to exile > Condemn, you want to remove creatures that could stop you in the race
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Rikets



Joined: 19 Jun 2008
Posts: 45

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

path also helps them in the race wich he doesnt want in this build id say condemn is better
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2325

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rikets wrote:
path also helps them in the race wich he doesnt want in this build id say condemn is better


How is lifegain setting him back less than a land?
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aqualad33
Level 1 Judge


Joined: 18 Jan 2010
Posts: 272

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have to say in a deck like this paths are better. Condem is better when you are playing an aggro deck because giving your opponent 2ish life is not nearly as bad as giving them the extra land which could either give them just the right color mana they need, or accelerate them into their more powerful spells however this deck isn't trying to race, it is trying to build a massive board presence and overrun the opponent with a bunch of creatures.

now for the comments, squadren hawks gotta go, plain and simple, it is a pretty mediocre card, and there hasn't been anything printed yet that abuses it, so in my opinion it isn't worth the 8 mana investment.

I personally am not a real big fan of the slime. As a 5 drop I don't see it making a big enough impact on he game state unless you have a sacrifice outlet (and i'm not talking about the monuments, which it sounds like you want to cut, i'm talking about stuff eat all the tokens at once, like the bloodthrone) he is decent post wrath but not supperb.


some directions you could take this deck.
1. up your wrath count and more monuments, and go for a big turn of wrath, garruk ultimate, or martial coup then ajani pump
2. drop the wraths and go for nest invader and kozilek predator and add overrun or beastmaster's ascension.
3. make it less of a token deck and change your walkers to elspeth giddeon garruk. and add creatures like kotr and dauntless escort.

anyways those are my thoughts.
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warp_gaming



Joined: 09 Feb 2008
Posts: 54

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe this deck isn't playable because it isn't mythic or jund.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2325

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GW is very probably not going to be a good deck in a competitive environment. But it can be fun to play, and the deckbuilding/optimalization process is helpful by itself.
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P_P4E



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
Posts: 579

PostPosted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can path to exile one of your own creatures. People seem to forget that.

Why no Knight of the Reliquary? Any deck with both green and white should have it. The word "midrange" also seems to fit.

Hawk seems O.K. here, but vengevine, knight, or any of the eldrazi spawn guys people mentioned seem better.

Good list so far
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Nickname7



Joined: 07 May 2007
Posts: 46

PostPosted: Thu Aug 05, 2010 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean Condemn can't remove non-attacking creatures
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