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those ugly green eldrazi decks



 
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kev41



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 2:33 pm    Post subject: those ugly green eldrazi decks Reply with quote

Hi guys, i was thinking on what was the most efficient way to battle those green eldrazi decks that has too much mana ramp, so they seem to have unlimited mana resources. I'm thinking on spreading seas for the temples and eye of urgin, and also tectonic edge, but those dont seem enough.
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Efrem_84



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for almost any ramp deck, being a fast aggro deck like burn or hand desruption i think
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what green eldrazi decks are you talking about
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Sigil



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsy wrote:
what green eldrazi decks are you talking about


Something like this'n:

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
16 [ZEN] Forest (3)
4 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
3 [WWK] Tectonic Edge
4 [ROE] Eldrazi Temple
1 [WWK] Eye of Ugin

// Creatures
1 [ROE] Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3 [ROE] Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
4 [ZEN] Lotus Cobra
2 [ROE] Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
4 [M11] Primeval Titan
4 [ROE] Overgrown Battlement

// Spells
4 [WWK] Explore
4 [ZEN] Harrow
3 [ZEN] Summoning Trap
3 [ROE] All Is Dust

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [ROE] Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
SB: 1 [ZEN] Summoning Trap
SB: 1 [ROE] All Is Dust
SB: 4 [ROE] Pelakka Wurm
SB: 4 [ROE] Joraga Treespeaker
SB: 4 [M11] Obstinate Baloth




...But it's pretty easy to beat usually. It actually fails (hard) to Eldrazi Green ironically, any fast deck (RDW, WW, Boros, Naya Allies), vampires (because of sludge) and jund if they draw blightning.

Basically, play any tier 1 or 2 deck and you should win....
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kev41



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sure, playing a t1 deck is the most viable way to beat other lower tiers deck, but supposing i am testing a new deck, and want to make it work, to some extent, but since is kind of control my opponent almost always cast an eldrazi so thats why im asking for some advices
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Sigil



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Posts: 92

PostPosted: Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Control? Give a color.

Black-Discard.
Red- Bolt mana ramp or just Ajani V. to lockdown temples.
Blue- Counter mana ramp, bounce back lands, Play Jace 2.0...
White- Kozilek or Ulamog get path'd, emrakul gets DoJ'd.
Green- Shouldn't be control!
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gypsy



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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 4:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are these green eldrazi decks supposed to be good?
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R3wind



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Posts: 1386

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sigil wrote:
gypsy wrote:
what green eldrazi decks are you talking about


Something like this'n:

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
16 [ZEN] Forest (3)
4 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
3 [WWK] Tectonic Edge
4 [ROE] Eldrazi Temple
1 [WWK] Eye of Ugin

// Creatures
1 [ROE] Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
3 [ROE] Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
4 [ZEN] Lotus Cobra
2 [ROE] Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
4 [M11] Primeval Titan
4 [ROE] Overgrown Battlement

// Spells
4 [WWK] Explore
4 [ZEN] Harrow
3 [ZEN] Summoning Trap
3 [ROE] All Is Dust

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [ROE] Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre
SB: 1 [ZEN] Summoning Trap
SB: 1 [ROE] All Is Dust
SB: 4 [ROE] Pelakka Wurm
SB: 4 [ROE] Joraga Treespeaker
SB: 4 [M11] Obstinate Baloth




...But it's pretty easy to beat usually. It actually fails (hard) to Eldrazi Green ironically, any fast deck (RDW, WW, Boros, Naya Allies), vampires (because of sludge) and jund if they draw blightning.

Basically, play any tier 1 or 2 deck and you should win....


Ummm... Garruk plus Eldrazi temple for the win? 5 turn hard casted big guy is not bad at all.
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Vedrfolner



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Posts: 2325

PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsy wrote:
are these green eldrazi decks supposed to be good?


No but if you build a control deck that is supposed to stop the opponent completely before taking the initiative and win with some sort of slow win condition, if they draw an Ulamog with 15 mana you lose.

The answer is not to have more disruption or Sadistic Sacrament or counters. It is to NOT design the deck to require complete control before you win. In other words: 10 or more win conditions and thus taking the initiative at an earlier stage.
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