enduring ideal good or bad

looshkin · Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Posts: 27

Not sure if this is worth trying to run

Spells
4 Enduring ideal
4 Seething song
4 Peer through depths
4 Ponder
4 Manamorphose
4 Pentad Prism
4 Rite of Flame or Desperate Ritual
2 Form of the dragon
1 Zur's weirding
1 Dovescape
1 Privileged position
1 Ivory mask
1 Meishin, the mind cage
1 Take Possession

Lands
5 Plains
2 Island
3 Mountain
4 Halimar Depths
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2 Tendo Ice Bridge
3 Shivan Reef
4 Adarkar Wastes

Updated hope it looks better.

Miqo · Joined: 24 Aug 2008 Posts: 47

You need more accelerators... Try running Rite of Flame, Desperate Ritual, Chrome Mox, and to fix mana colors Manamorphose, maybe even Lotus Bloom. Naturally if you do this you'll need Ricochet Traps and the such on the SB.

What comes to the enchantments, you might use an Oblivion Ring and a Take Possession somewhere there. Teferi's Moat seems also useful.[/i]

Tao · Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 863

The problem with playing a non-interactive combo deck right now is, you stand zero chance of beating DDT's discard suite. You can still play a fair fight against everything else, I guess, but that's banking on not playing against DDT, which is a stupid thing to bank on.

CMA-Flippi · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 6:26 pm Post subject:

This is how i played it in todays trial. I lost quarterfinals:
The deck definitely needs a second Form of the Dragon. Also Runed Halo maindeck probably.

What makes the deck work are the 4 Ponder and 4 Halimar Depths among with Fetchlands. As Toolbox for Ideal, you dont need too many enchantments (like Shared Animosity WTF???), Form of the Dragon, Zurs Weirding, Greater Auramancy, Take Possession should be enough to win. Maybe Ivory Mask.

// Lands
1 [LRW] Island (4)
4 [WWK] Halimar Depths
2 [RAV] Boros Garrison
1 [LRW] Plains (4)
1 [RAV] Mountain (1)
2 [DIS] Hallowed Fountain
4 [ZEN] Arid Mesa
1 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
1 [GP] Steam Vents
2 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
1 [EVE] Cascade Bluffs
3 [SHM] Mystic Gate

// Spells
1 [9E] Zur's Weirding
2 [DIS] Azorius Signet
1 [SHM] Greater Auramancy
4 [LRW] Ponder
1 [CHK] Honden of Cleansing Fire
4 [SOK] Enduring Ideal
1 [9E] Form of the Dragon
4 [CHK] Peer Through Depths
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
4 [SHM] Manamorphose
4 [MR] Seething Song
4 [FD] Pentad Prism
1 [CHK] Honden of Infinite Rage
1 [TSB] Teferi's Moat
1 [FUT] Take Possession

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [SHM] Runed Halo
SB: 1 [9E] Ivory Mask
SB: 4 [MR] Chalice of the Void
SB: 1 [CHK] Night of Souls' Betrayal
SB: 2 [ZEN] Mindbreak Trap
SB: 2 [M10] Silence
SB: 3 [DS] Echoing Truth

Tao · Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 863

Well.... at least it was Mister Flippi who showed me wrong, haha =]

gypsy · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1671

play dovescape

dAEdaL · Level 1 Judge Joined: 14 Nov 2009 Posts: 37

Mistveil Plains has been helpful in case you draw Form/Honden depending on which variation you run.

Ivory Mask or Dovescape is essential since you'll just die to burn when Form is out or even before you get to Ideal.

Also, no Meishin? Seems to me a proper zoo deck would have crushed that list with Pridemage/Teeg/etc.

madapples · Joined: 13 Oct 2006 Posts: 128

2 Form of the Dragon
1 Dovescape

are a must imo.

Then put in silver bullets for each archetype if possible
Zoo
Combo
Dredge
DD
Thopter