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| Could it work with tweeking? |
| No, but I say no to every new deck |
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7% |
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| No, its cute but isnt consistant |
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0% |
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| No, not right for the meta |
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15% |
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| Yes but needs to be tweaked |
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46% |
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| Yes, stick with it till the meta changes |
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15% |
[ 2 ] |
| Yes, Pro tour sleeper deck |
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15% |
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Mister_karas
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
Posts: 25
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 Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:31 pm Post subject: Creatureless control? |
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// Lands
4 [M10] Dragonskull Summit
3 [10E] Swamp (3)
4 [CST] Mountain (2)
3 [BD] Island (3)
4 [M10] Drowned Catacomb
4 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
4 [ALA] Crumbling Necropolis
// Spells
4 [ZEN] Pyromancer Ascension
2 [ALA] Cruel Ultimatum
4 [ALA] Blightning
4 [M10] Ponder
4 [M10] Divination
3 [ZEN] Burst Lightning
4 [R] Lightning Bolt
4 [PS] Terminate
2 [DD2] Jace Beleren
3 [ARB] Bituminous Blast
// Sideboard
SB: 4 [7E] Duress
SB: 4 [ARB] Thought Hemorrhage
SB: 4 [M10] Pyroclasm
SB: 3 [ZEN] Into the Roil
Has a really good match vs jund since the only thing you have to really worry about is pulses and blightning, post board you get your hemorages and duresses.
Vs vamps the pyroclasms are key. UWR control you can race them and put in the into the roil and hemorages to deal with their walkers.
Boros you have a decent match up preboard, post board you add in into the roil and pyroclam, then if it turns out they are not running manabarbs you can side out the into the roils g3 if it comes to that.
This mana base is amazing, in the 20+ games I've played I've always been able to cast cruel off my 7th land drop. |
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KnockouT
Joined: 25 May 2005
Posts: 27
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Where are your time warp's?
I like the idea a lot, this is the list I've been playing with.
// Lands
5 [ZEN] Island (3)
2 [ZEN] Scalding Tarn
2 [10E] Terramorphic Expanse
4 [ALA] Crumbling Necropolis
3 [M10] Drowned Catacomb
3 [M10] Dragonskull Summit
3 [ZEN] Mountain (3)
4 [ZEN] Swamp (3)
// Spells
4 [ZEN] Pyromancer Ascension
4 [B] Lightning Bolt
4 [PT] Pyroclasm
4 [ZEN] Burst Lightning
4 [LRW] Ponder
4 [TE] Time Warp
3 [ALA] Cruel Ultimatum
3 [M10] Jace Beleren
4 [ZEN] Into the Roil
// Sideboard
SB: 4 [US] Duress
SB: 4 [ARB] Thought Hemorrhage
SB: 4 [M10] Deathmark
SB: 3 [ARB] Double Negative |
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Mister_karas
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
Posts: 25
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I tryed it with time warp, but all it seemd to do was draw me an extra card and give me a land drop, I want more out of my 5 mana spell then a rampant growth with a cantrip.
I actually replaced the warps with B blast because instead of getting me some random card it got me something usefull, since even if I hit a termanate with only 1 creature out, I can play the terminate and have the blast be counterd putting another instant in my grave for asension
What I would love to do in a perfect world (read as its not going to happen) is find some way to splash green letting me add in pulse so I can deal with any perm they happen to drop |
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Lynolf
Joined: 25 Aug 2007
Posts: 321
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:34 pm Post subject: Re: Creatureless control? |
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Consider testing Chandra Ablaze there. It works well alongside Pyromancer Ascension (discard Burst Lightning, play Burst Lightning for kicker cost, trigger Ascension, 8 damage to the face ftw!). Her second ability is probably only useful against control, but her ultimate ability should offer you no problem in winning the game right away.  |
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magryn
Joined: 26 Oct 2009
Posts: 9
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Here is a good list of what you are trying to do. You are most very welcome.
// Lands
4 [ALA] Arcane Sanctum
4 [ALA] Savage Lands
4 [ALA] Jungle Shrine
4 [ALA] Crumbling Necropolis
4 [CFX] Exotic Orchard
4 [ALA] Seaside Citadel
// Creatures
4 [ARB] Bloodbraid Elf
// Spells
4 [ALA] Esper Charm
4 [ZEN] Into the Roil
4 [ARB] Captured Sunlight
4 [M10] Time Warp
4 [M10] Lightning Bolt
4 [ALA] Naya Charm
4 [M10] Ponder
4 [ZEN] Pyromancer Ascension |
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orphan
Joined: 18 Aug 2008
Posts: 19
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: |
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| swerve is pretty good in the sb. Vs jund it is pretty nasty |
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Mister_karas
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
Posts: 25
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the sugestion orphan, what would you sugest I cut?
the duresses? they only come in vs one match up so far, and I much prefure hemorage anyway.
Or maybe go 3 3 3 3 3 for my SB slots? |
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Pillsburry
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
Posts: 77
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I don't see how you win Jund game 1.
Pulse meets Pyromancer.
Thrinax is a problem. |
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Iorisama
Joined: 07 Oct 2005
Posts: 6
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:00 pm Post subject: |
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You instantly die against Telemin performance, but who plays that?
I like this deck a lot, but I havent had much luck with creature-less decks myself. Ill try it out. I certainly think its possible. |
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ManaLeak
Joined: 08 Nov 2005
Posts: 135
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:02 pm Post subject: |
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| telemin performance. |
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Pillsburry
Joined: 17 Oct 2009
Posts: 77
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:12 pm Post subject: |
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SB:
-1 Duress
-1 Thought Hemorrhage
-1 Into the Roil
+3 Swerve (helps against Mind Sludge and opponent's Thought Hemorrhage).
If Telemin Performance see's alot of play, -3 Swerve, +3 Negate.
Another alternative is Quest for Ancients Secret.
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SugarShark
Joined: 22 Mar 2009
Posts: 247
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| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | You instantly die against Telemin performance |
don't lose the first round in any tournament or else you'll end up in wacky land
edit: that's where I am mwahahaha |
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Knighted
Joined: 22 Jul 2009
Posts: 46
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| Iorisama wrote: | You instantly die against Telemin performance, but who plays that?
I like this deck a lot, but I havent had much luck with creature-less decks myself. Ill try it out. I certainly think its possible. |
A lot of control decks run 1 Telemin Performance in their sb for playing against other control decks. |
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Mister_karas
Joined: 15 Jul 2009
Posts: 25
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| Posted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| Pillsburry wrote: | I don't see how you win Jund game 1.
Pulse meets Pyromancer.
Thrinax is a problem. |
Pulse isnt needed to win
Thinax is 4 (usally 3) cards out of 60, and worst case senario, I can race it
| ManaLeak wrote: | | telemin performance. |
Thought hemorage |
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