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Time Warp + Twin Cast


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Akeldyma



Joined: 05 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAR, you are wrong. Clariax knows the rules better than I know my own penis. He knows the rules better than ANY other judge or admin on this site, and he is a judge.

Anyone who has been playing Magic for more than a week knows this shit, anyway.
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Aiken013



Joined: 13 Jan 2005
Posts: 4

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't even try to explain to them what happens if Player A casts Time Warp and Player B Twincasts it. I can see it now...

"QQ!!! Why does he still get his turn before me?!??! I Twincasted it dammit!"
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MarkovXII



Joined: 11 Jul 2005
Posts: 55

PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 9:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whether it works or not they have a right to the correct explaination to get a better sense of the rules. If you have a question i think its good to understand y it works the ways it does. Dont settle for yes or no ans and dont hate Apos.
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Akeldyma



Joined: 05 Jul 2009
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clariax posted a VERY good example of how and why it works, and the guy is still arguing. He's a fucking twit; no doubt.
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Conkisstador



Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Posts: 378

PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hardtrack wrote:
Just to confirm Clariax is correct. It has nothing to do with replacement effects and multiple extra turns are cumulative.


Clariax: your ABABAB > AABABAB > AAABABAB is exactly what i said... and i congratulate you on saying it much more concisely. I want to make sure people understand what happens if someone ELSE casts TimeWarp on my turn because I'm not wrong and you're incomplete.

using that diagram, we'll label 'extra' turns with lower case 'a' and 'b'

Player A casts TimeWarp and it gets Twimcasted by player B. Twincast resolves first making the turn structure AbBABAB. Then TimeWarp resolves making the structure AabBABAB. notice 2 consecutive turns for A and THEn 2 consecutive turns for B.

i apologize for the nomenclature; using 'replacement...' but I'm sure it works in English terms for explaining the phenomenon.

RAR- I am a judge here and in real life DCI. Clariax not only knows the rules better than all but maybe 3 people in the world (not exaggerating) but is also responsible for making sure cards WORK before they ever get printed. you can trust him... except about the "or copies" part. if you copy timewarp the COPY will be inserted first and then the normal one into the scheme.
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