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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:36 am Post subject: GRW Solution |
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Hi i always liked solution decks and heres my take on one for extended:
// Lands
4 [ZEN] Arid Mesa
3 [ZEN] Misty Rainforest
3 [ZEN] Verdant Catacombs
2 [GP] Stomping Ground
2 [RAV] Temple Garden
2 [RAV] Sacred Foundry
2 [ALA] Forest (3)
2 [ZEN] Marsh Flats
2 [MR] Plains (1)
// Creatures
2 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
1 [SOK] Kataki, War's Wage
1 [ALA] Ranger of Eos
1 [LRW] Mirror Entity
1 [ALA] Ethersworn Canonist
1 [FD] Eternal Witness
4 [9E] Kird Ape
4 [ZEN] Lotus Cobra
1 [ARB] Qasali Pridemage
1 [LRW] Burrenton Forge-Tender
1 [ARB] Dauntless Escort
1 [DIS] Loaming Shaman
4 [ALA] Wild Nacatl
1 [FUT] Magus of the Moon
4 [FUT] Tarmogoyf
1 [ALA] Realm Razer
// Spells
4 [RAV] Chord of Calling
3 [CFX] Path to Exile
2 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
// Sideboard
SB: 2 [ALA] Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 1 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 2 [ZEN] Ravenous Trap
SB: 2 [RAV] Loxodon Hierarch
SB: 4 [ZEN] Summoning Trap
SB: 2 [TSP] Ancient Grudge
SB: 1 [ALA] Caldera Hellion
SB: 1 [ALA] Realm Razer
The deck isnt heavily tested, but did pretty well as far as i can tell. Cobra realy shines against combo to give and speed boost to either kill them quickly or chord of a 1 of solution. The 1 ofs should be pretty self explaining as is the sideboard. The hole deck is kind of straight forward. I would love to know what you guys think. And yes i know it looks alot like zoo but it has alot more flexibility in it.
Well would love to hear your opinions.
KeySam
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jonproject
Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 250
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:42 am Post subject: |
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| I REALLY like this deck. Have you considered Ranger of Eos, even as a singleton? |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:43 am Post subject: |
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Haha funny before i read your post i added it and kicked a land to not get flooded too often(it happened from time to time).
Thanks for the reply though. |
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jonproject
Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 250
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:59 am Post subject: |
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| Haha sounds good. Are you sure 23 lands might be one too many? Stock Zoo decks (that I've played, at least) have had 22 lands and that always seems to be the perfect number to get to 4 mana consistently. I can see needing to pay for Chord of Calling, but it does have convoke to ease that. Perhaps a single Kataki, War's Wage for the Affinity MU by shaving a land? |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:27 am Post subject: |
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Yea i forgot kataki seems like a good silber bullet. I ll try it. Thanks for the reply. But i am not sure i want 22 lands, but i test it too.
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Spyx
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 1009
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:35 am Post subject: |
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| Gaddock Teeg seems ok. I'm not sure if caldera helion is good. 8 mana to tutor him and he wipes all your guys too. |
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xFreefallx
Joined: 18 Jul 2005 Posts: 3
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:25 am Post subject: |
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| He doesn't exactly kill all your guys, it just eats them and they turn into +1/+1 counters as he devours your own guys, so you get a huge red beater and clear their board. I really like the deck very interesting and versatile. |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: |
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I dislike gaddock teeg because he only realy shines against tron and the against the rest hes pretty irrelevant and he shuts down chord.
THe Caldera hellion is there if the game stall against zoo to get a huge advantage. And with convoke its not that hard to get out in those situations.
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Thicket
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 80
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:58 am Post subject: |
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I've never heard of a Solution Deck. From context I'm guessing it's kind of a basic zoo-ish build with a bunch of 1-ofs to act as "solutions" to whatever situations may come up with chords to tutor them as needed?
Am I hot? cold? Either way, this is kind of cool. Nice  |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 11:58 am Post subject: |
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Solution usualy stands for a deck with a lots of 1 of able to search up to answer a wide spread of situation that comes up. e.G.: UWB with trinket mage was called uwb solution, because they could tutor up a lot of different silver bullets for each matchup. This deck uses chord of calling as the search engine, while putting it in a zoo shell.
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Thicket
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 80
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:04 pm Post subject: |
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Ahhh, very nice! I play Zoo myself, and love tutoring effects. Sounds fun! Whats the game plan if you draw bullets for situations that arent really manifest in a current game? Or I guess maybe that's what you sideboard to prevent? Still a pretty cool idea, I dig it.
Out of curiosity, in your testing, what have you found you end up chording for most often? |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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| Hi well game 1 you can just play the bullet after boarding you obv side useless ones out. |
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gypsy
Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1118
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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| i like the idea of this deck but i think you went a little overboard with the silver bullets, you can probably cut some/ move some to sb. like witness seems random hellion and mirror entity seem slow and bad |
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KeySam
Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:57 pm Post subject: |
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Your probably right that i may have a lot of silver bullets. But i wouldnt cut witness, i have it in there to basicly have 2 of each silver bullet that if it dies somehow i can get it back, in addition it can funktion like card advantage if you go chord for eternity return chord.
The idea behind entity is that you chord it up and then have like 3 other guys (best would be with cobra) and make them all huge and swing ftw., although i never chorded it up, if i have more testing i know what if i could it or not.
I actually like the hellion though, it seems perfect for zoo and i expect zoo to be a huge part of the metagame.
In addition stuff like kataki, ethersworn, vexing shusher... can change depending on the meta.
Someone also asked what i chord up the most and i didnt do enough testing to realy tell and it obviously changes with the matchup. I can tell you what i never chorded up till now:
Mirror Entity(though i added it when i wanted to chord up a pump effect),Ranger of Eos and Kataki(i didnt played with them yet), Vexing shusher(didnt play against faeries), Loaming Shaman(didnt play against dredge).
I have maybe only a total of 8 matches till now so obviously the deck will change alot.
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Trotsky1
Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1458
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:51 pm Post subject: |
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| Maybe try adding hokori dust drinker as a possible bullet to the main or side, should give some control decks nightmares. |
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