All in Goblins post Rotation

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619

I tested this deck now a bit today and i like it, i would love some suggestions. I cant realy post a matchup analys because of not enough testing and the incomplete zendikar spoiler obv. But i always like to try some stuff out beforehand. Here the list:

// Lands
14 [RAV] Mountain (1)

// Creatures
4 [ZEN] Warren Instigator
4 [M10] Goblin Chieftain
4 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide
4 [10E] Siege-Gang Commander
4 [10E] Goblin King
3 [PLC] Stingscourger
2 [CHK] Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker

// Spells
2 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
3 [9E] Seething Song
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
4 [CHK] Desperate Ritual
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
4 [TSP] Empty the Warrens

// Sideboard
SB: 2 [BOK] Umezawa's Jitte
SB: 2 [SHM] Guttural Response
SB: 3 [GP] Shattering Spree
SB: 4 [9E] Blood Moon
SB: 3 [M10] Pithing Needle
SB: 1 [EVE] Duergar Hedge-Mage

I think the deck is quite obvious suggestions are welcome(i only play 3 seethings because i rarely want 2 of them although they power out insane starts). And the sdieboard still pretty random.
KeySam

Eldariel · Joined: 15 Jun 2006 Posts: 238

I think a manabase of 14 lands and 4 moxes is woefully insufficient to support the deck., with all the acceleration. Also, the quality of Goblins available seems overall quite low; if the EtW isn't coming, I'm not sure how well the deck can capitalize on the acceleration.

I tried accelerated Goblins before, but without Seething Song and with some acceleration; I'm not sure if the deck really has enough guns over random "Iwins" without Onslaught tools anymore. If anything, it greatly relies on Zendikar. We'll have to wait and see.

gypsy · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 1118

isnt all in red better

Duodax · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 161

instigator without ringleader or at least matron sux like a bitch

all in red is better. but if it will be played, mindbreak trap will snap your neck even in maindeck and all have to splash with UR fetch the blue mana to ensure it is not a deathdraw in topdeckmode...

Lynolf · Joined: 25 Aug 2007 Posts: 321

I believe you are missing the greatest weakness of this deck: Lightning Bolt your Warren Instigator and its gg. In fact, the only goblin that's worth it here is Siege-Gang Commander. Counterspell decks, Zoo, Burn, Hypergenesis, (not sure if Volcanic Fallout will be used in T1.x) all these decks kick you in the nuts. Warren Instigator is a strong card, but not for this kind of deck, not even for Extended, probably. People who posted before me are totally right: All-In Red is a much better deck than this one. Mr. Green

KeySam · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 619

@Lynolf
well this deck isnt all about warren instigator and i think empty the warrens is quite good too with all those lord. I actually beat fallout quite often too. And counterspell decks usualy are a bit to slow for this deck. I can imagine that zoo wont be easy thats why my list right now has bloodmoon maindeck again.

@Duodax Well ringleader and Matron would be nuts obviosuly but well its not bad to put sgc or Kikijiki or lords into play with him.

to the all in red issue, i guess deus and demigod is better then sgc, empty we have in common. I am not sure if all in red is better or not i didnt played it all that often to be honest(each of the decks).

I dont claim this deck is unbeatable i just think its a fun and quite powerful deck.

Btw what do you think Blood moon maindeck. Should i include stingscourger? Other goblins i missed? maybe the black champion?

KeySam

jonproject · Joined: 22 Dec 2007 Posts: 250

@ Keysam, i would try playing Blood Moon main for more chances at an early way to steal games, especially considering the fast clock goblins put you on. have you tried Magus of the Moon. idk if the "i win" factor has been crucial or not, but i could see fitting a few Magus in the board or something. and i can see stingscourger being decent, but only decent. i don't play red often enough to know what could replace it in terms of being a goblin that can deal with creatures, but i think lightning bolt could work its way in somewhere.

DoomBring3r · Joined: 30 Apr 2009 Posts: 436

Blood Moon/Magus of the Moon should absolutely be MD, maybe as 2 or 3-of, because it's completely ridiculous when playing against nonbasic abusers.

Oh and Fetches are back, so it'll be as good as ever.