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Rath



Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:35 am    Post subject: Cascade Reply with quote

I have Putrid Leech in play.

I announce a cascade spell of cmc of > 4 and the cascade trigger resolves.

I hit Volcanic Fallout and choose to cast it. Do I have time anywhere to save my Putrid Leech or would I have to pump prior to announcing the cascade spell?

Thanks.
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Trotsky1



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 1671

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cascade spell would then go on the stack (fallout) to be played and you could pump your leech then. This is the same time window in which if the spell was counterable, you would be able to counterspell it.
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Rath



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So I choose to play the Fallout and I pass priority? Or do I pump Leech before I pass priority?
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DoomBring3r



Joined: 30 Apr 2009
Posts: 436

PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rath wrote:
So I choose to play the Fallout and I pass priority? Or do I pump Leech before I pass priority?



Pump Leech, and then pass priority.
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Trotsky1



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 05, 2009 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The bloodbraid elf goes on the stack as does the cascade triggered ability, prioty passes when passed back the triggered ability of the cascade mechanic resolves revealing fallout which now also goes on the stack (at this point you have an oppertunity to pump in response to fallout going on stack) once priorty is passed you do not get another chance assuming your opponent has no response to pump the leech.
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Conkisstador



Joined: 08 Sep 2004
Posts: 400

PostPosted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

an active player can make as many instant speed actions as they want/can as long as they have priority. if you want to do 15 different abilities then you can. as soon as you pass priority you are relinquishing your chance at making a response. if THEY respond, then active player will receive priority and pass to non-active etc.
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Ogle



Joined: 06 Aug 2009
Posts: 71

PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i can respond to a cascade spell can i "counter" it with silence???
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DoomBring3r



Joined: 30 Apr 2009
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ogle wrote:
if i can respond to a cascade spell can i "counter" it with silence???



You can respond to a Broodbraid Elf being played for instance, before they cascade, but once they do it and play the other spell, it's too late because they already played it.
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Ogle



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DoomBring3r wrote:
Ogle wrote:
if i can respond to a cascade spell can i "counter" it with silence???



You can respond to a Broodbraid Elf being played for instance, before they cascade, but once they do it and play the other spell, it's too late because they already played it.


i thought cascade uses the stack and if so i can respond and play silence and he can't play the cascaded spell.
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DoomBring3r



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 12, 2009 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's what i said, you can do that in response to the cascade trigger but only BEFORE it resolves, you can't do it after you see your opponent cascading to check if it's worth countering or not.
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