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greeley
Joined: 23 Apr 2009
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 Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:53 pm Post subject: reflecting pool |
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i have some doubts about this card (i think its stupid questions but i want to know)
if i have a wooded bastion and reflecting pool... can i produce green adn white mana even if i didnt control a plains or forest??
if i have a pain land battlefield forge adn a reflecting pool .. i have 1 life left. can i produce white or red mana with the reflecting??
you must see that all of this goes to ... refelcting pool can produce mana of any color in my lands or i need the especial condition for some lands?? |
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FreeBird
Joined: 04 Aug 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 4:55 pm Post subject: |
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Reflecting Pool can produce any color mana that any land you control can produce without restrictions
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yes and yes |
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ChrRome
Joined: 08 Mar 2009
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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| I also have a small question regarding reflecting pool. With simply an ancient ziggurat and reflecting pool, can I produce mana to play a one mana cost non-creature spell (i.e. path to exile), thanks |
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Alvaro21k
Joined: 28 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Reflecting Pool will produce mana of any color, and you can use that mana for whatever you want. |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 2:56 am Post subject: |
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Reflecting Pool can produce any type of mana that a land you control can produce, ignoring any and all costs.
The costs of an activated ability are in front of the colon ( : ). So you can ignore everything before the colon. You just look at the text after the colon, and all colours that land could produce just looking at that part of the ability, Reflecting Pool can produce.
And yes, any limitations on how to spend the mana are also ignored by Reflecting Pool, that's why it's so good with Ancient Ziggurat or Pillar of the Paruns, just to name a few. |
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stevefrommi
Joined: 03 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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So, let me go over what everyone just said again to be sure:
if I have pillar, I can use reflecting pool to make any color at any time, no matter what.
If I have ancient zig, I can use reflecting pool to make any color at any time, no matter what.
If I have vivid anything, with or without counters, I can use reflecting pool to make any color at any time no matter what.
If I have the land that lets me make opponent's mana base colors, I can use reflecting pool the same way, and both lands can make any color that any opponent's lands could make at any time, regardless of what their lands can make for a specific instance (like pillar).
lol... what a bad @$$ card! |
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stevefrommi
Joined: 03 Jan 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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| I was just checking though.... is that for sure right? |
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Wiley
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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Better question, how does reflecting pool interact with snow lands
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zturchan
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Because snow is not a colour of mana, a reflecting pool cannot produce snow mana. This is because it lacks the snow supertype that is required by the rules to generate snow mana. |
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Hardtrack
Joined: 10 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, stevefrommi, that is all correct. And also explains why the card is so expensive.
Snow mana is mana produced by a snow permanent. Since Reflecting Pool is not snow, it can not produce snow mana. |
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Blitz00
Joined: 08 Feb 2009
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:27 pm Post subject: |
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| wait if you have a vivid land with no counters you cant produce any color mana because you can no longer produce the mana if you had to.. right? |
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alvaro202
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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| Blitz00 wrote: | | wait if you have a vivid land with no counters you cant produce any color mana because you can no longer produce the mana if you had to.. right? |
I don't understand the rules but I know you can still produce any color mana. Vivid lands have the ability to produce any color land, even with no counters on it. You can no longer use the vivid to produce any color, because you can not remove any more counters from the vivid land, but reflecting pool does not check to see if the vivid land has any counters, it just checks what color mana the land is capable of producing at any given time.
If a land is capable of producing any color, reflecting pool can make that color. If your land is limited to producing only colors your opponent controls (like exotic orchard) your reflecting pool will only be able to make the colors exotic orchard may produce. |
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KevinJonas
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| Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2009 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| what abot if u puts a lifes on ur lands... spriti link etc.... does caves produce any colors then!? |
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Hardtrack
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What? I have no idea what Spirit Link has to do with this.
Like I said before: ignore everything before the colon. It doesn't matter what an ability costs, and whether or not you can pay that.
All you have to look at is what the land could produce if the ability resolved. Caves of Koilos can make colourless, black and white mana, therefor, so can Reflecting Pool.
It doesn't matter if the Caves are tapped, how much life you have left, etc. etc. |
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Kaesh
Joined: 10 Nov 2004
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| Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2009 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Shadowmoor FAQ wrote: | Reflecting Pool
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{T}: Add to your mana pool one mana of any type that a land you control could produce.
* The types of mana are white, blue, black, red, green, and colorless.
* Reflecting Pool checks the effects of all mana-producing abilities of lands you control, but it doesn't check their costs. For example, Vivid Crag says "{T}, Remove a charge counter from Vivid Crag: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool." If you control Vivid Crag and Reflecting Pool, you can tap Reflecting Pool for any color of mana. It doesn't matter whether Vivid Crag has a charge counter on it, and it doesn't matter whether it's untapped.
* Reflecting Pool doesn't care about any restrictions or riders your lands put on the mana they produce, such as Pillar of the Paruns and Hall of the Bandit Lord do. It just cares about types of mana.
* Multiple Reflecting Pools won't help each other produce mana. If you control a Reflecting Pool, and all other lands you control either lack mana abilities or are other Reflecting Pools, you may still play Reflecting Pool's ability -- it just won't produce any mana. |
The could produce part refers to what a land would produce when you would play a mana ability right now, not any other potential colors. River of Tears + Reflecting Pool functions as a second River of Tears, not as a UB dual. |
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