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Bant Exalted



 
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black1234



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:31 pm    Post subject: Bant Exalted Reply with quote

ok, so i kinda suck at deck building here is a (probably failed) attempt at a bant deck

Qty Name
// Lands
8 Plains
3 Island
4 Bant Panorama
4 Seaside Citadel
3 Forest
//\\
// Creatures
4 Akrasan Squire
4 Guardians of Akrasa
4 Sigiled Paladin
2 Battlegrace Angel
3 Knight-Captain of Eos
2 Rafiq of the Many
3 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
3 Stoic Angel
2 Noble Hierarch
//\\
// Spells
3 Oblivion Ring
4 Bant Charm
3 Light from Within
3 Dispeller's Capsule

my plan is to get some exalted out in the first few rounds namely akrasan Squire and noble hierarch,

then for later in the game, knight captian+elspeth for damage control oblivion and bant charms for counter and remove

stoic angel to lock the board,

and rafiq as my win condition, played testing this deck has shown me its horrible, any advice would be welcome

ps i need a sideboard desperately...
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Manipulation



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Posts: 318
Location: Oxnard

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't play much type 2, so I dunno whether an Exalted deck is even viable, but I'm noticing some problems right away with 2 and 3-of's. That's going to make your late game inconsistent.

Guardians of Akrasa seems a poor choice compared to fellow 3-drop Rhox War Monk, or even 2 more Noble Hierarch to keep in the Exalted theme. Rafiq seems better as a 4-of, probably replacing Knight-Captain or Battlegrace Angel. Light from Within is weak compared to Ajani Goldmane or Glorious Anthem. Dispeller's Capsule could be a meta choice main, but I dunno what you're hitting with it, so it seems better sideboarded.
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ILikeBananas



Joined: 01 Aug 2006
Posts: 194

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's the thing with competitive magic: Don't build around a mechanic. Build around a winning strategy and use a mechanic if it's compatible with that strategy.

Building around exalted is inherently flawed because of Wrath of God. Either you mitigate that risk by packing counter spells, or you play really dense creatures that don't really need other exalted creatures to be good (Rafiq).

If you want a winning version of a bant deck, try Dark Bant or the version with shorecrasher mimic.

The keepers from your list would be rafiq, noble hierarch, and elspeth as these are perfectly good on their own. Battlegrace angel and stoic angel are also good on their own but a little too slow in this meta imo.

You need some creature removal (path to exile) and you should consider Rhox War Monk as it's very good vs anything with red.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2140

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

4 Noble Hierarch
4 Shorecrasher Mimic
4 Jhessian Infiltrator
4 Rhox War Monk
4 Rafiq of the Many

1 Loxodon Warhammer

2 Elspeth, Knight Errant

4 Bant Charm
2 Snakeform
4 Path to Exile
3 Negate

4 Seaside Citadel
4 Brushland
4 Yavimaya Coast
4 Reflecting Pool
2 Mystic Gate
2 Wooded Bastion
2 Flooded Grove
1 Vivid Grove
1 Vivid Creek

This is probably a better deck.

If you want exalted at any cost:

4 Akrasian Squire
4 Noble Hierarch
4 Sigiled Paladin
4 Knight of Meadowgrain
4 Rhox War Monk
4 Rafiq of the Many

2 Elspeth, Knight Errant

1 Loxodon Warhammer

3 Bant Charm
4 Path to Exile
3 Negate

4 Brushland
4 Yavimaya Coast
4 Seaside Citadel
2 Wooded Bastion
2 Mystic Gate
7 Plains
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SugarShark



Joined: 22 Mar 2009
Posts: 447

PostPosted: Thu Apr 02, 2009 11:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

change the guardians of akrasa into wild nacatyl
and light from within to glorious anthem

cut the capsules, add another oblivion ring
you need 2 more lands also

maybe consider ranger of eos since you could have 10+ 1 drops
2 moer noble hierarchs if you can manage it
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Trotsky1



Joined: 12 Apr 2005
Posts: 1662

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the best thing you can do is stop playing your deck in type 2 ditch the few bad cards I'll leave other people to point them out and the very few non block cards and start playing block instead.
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Triggers



Joined: 08 Sep 2008
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 8:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

in a generally token FILLED meta.. exalted seems like a pretty bad strat.
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JimmyXu



Joined: 12 Nov 2007
Posts: 62

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

really? No one is going to comment on the fact that Black1234 basically says, "I built a bad deck, I'm horrible at magic, I don't really care about advice because I'm gonna be bad regardless" and then gives a decklist?

If you believe you're bad and that your deck is horrible, guess what, you will be and it is. So why should people give you constructive criticism?

There is such thing as CONSTRUCTIVELY asking for constructive criticism.
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black1234



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, so i took some advice, and here is what i have now

Qty Name
// Lands
8 Plains
3 Island
4 Bant Panorama
4 Seaside Citadel
3 Forest
//\\
// Creatures
4 Sigiled Paladin
2 Battlegrace Angel
4 Rafiq of the Many
3 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
3 Stoic Angel
4 Noble Hierarch
3 Rhox War Monk
//\\
// Spells
4 Oblivion Ring
4 Bant Charm
3 Glorious Anthem
2 Path to Exile
2 Negate

ps to JimmyXu i never said i was horrible at magic and was gonna be bad regardless, i said this deck was horrible and im kind of a bad deck builder.
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2140

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here's your mana curve

1cc: 7 (3 path to exile)
2cc: 6 (2 negate)
3cc: 14 (4 bant charm)
4cc: 10
5cc: 2

(39 cards)

and 22 lands, 4 of which is Bant "sucks" Panorama, 3 of which lets you play Noble Hierarch turn 1.
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black1234



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qty Name
// Lands
8 Plains
3 Island
4 Seaside Citadel
3 Forest
4 Reflecting Pool
//\\
// Creatures
4 Sigiled Paladin
2 Battlegrace Angel
4 Rafiq of the Many
3 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
3 Stoic Angel
4 Noble Hierarch
3 Rhox War Monk
//\\
// Spells
4 Oblivion Ring
4 Bant Charm
3 Glorious Anthem
2 Path to Exile
2 Negate

took out the bant panoramas, and added in reflecting pool, seems to be working a little better
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2140

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

use this one:

4 Brushland
4 Yavimaya Coast
4 Seaside Citadel
2 Wooded Bastion
2 Mystic Gate
7 Plains
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black1234



Joined: 17 Mar 2009
Posts: 24

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

k, ill try it out, see if i like that land set up, thx for the input
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arch_raziel



Joined: 06 Jul 2008
Posts: 153

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10th Edition painlands are good for increasing flexibility, and will make it more likely that you can play turn 1 heirarch, which is generally needed to get Bant Aggro up and running fast enough to stay ahead of control style decks.
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arch_raziel



Joined: 06 Jul 2008
Posts: 153

PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vedrfolner wrote:
use this one:

4 Brushland
4 Yavimaya Coast
4 Seaside Citadel
2 Wooded Bastion
2 Mystic Gate
7 Plains


Curse you Vedrfolner! you beat me to the painlands suggestion!! >_< lol
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