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Kilink
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject: WG Exalted |
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I've been around testing this deck and I've done pretty well, until today when I got smashed by almost every deck I played against.
So, wanting to imprive I'm asking for rating =D and any suggestions are gladly welcomed.
// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)
// Lands
4 [SHM] Wooded Bastion
2 [10E] Brushland
3 [MOR] Mutavault
5 [10E] Forest (3)
8 [ALA] Plains (4)
// Creatures
2 [ALA] Guardians of Akrasa
4 [LRW] Knight of Meadowgrain
2 [ALA] Battlegrace Angel
3 [ALA] Akrasan Squire
2 [CFX] Aven Squire
2 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
4 [EVE] Figure of Destiny
3 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
2 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
2 [LRW] Garruk Wildspeaker
3 [10E] Troll Ascetic
// Spells
3 [SHM] Shield of the Oversoul
3 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
3 [EVE] Unmake
// Sideboard
SB: 3 [SHM] Vexing Shusher
SB: 2 [10E] Story Circle
SB: 2 [10E] Wrath of God
SB: 3 [SHM] Elvish Hexhunter
SB: 2 [CFX] Filigree Fracture
SB: 3 [CFX] Path to Exile |
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aldaryn
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 501
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 8:59 pm Post subject: |
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| exalted is an ok strat, but it's not worth playing bad creatures with exalted, like guardians of akrasa or aven squire...noble hierarch is an obvious one to include, sigiled paladin is good too |
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Kilink
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:05 pm Post subject: |
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| Thanks, I'm awfully tempted to get the Rafiq of the Many, for the double strike, but I don't dig blue |
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Triggers
Joined: 08 Sep 2008 Posts: 112
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject: |
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Shield is not being used to its fullest in this deck only fully effects 2 cards ( finks + teeg..) not worth running imo
Guardians of Akrasa needs to be cut as well as avensquire
possibly add bark shell blessing ( +2/+2 for 1, that conspires ... and you only attack with 1, so... )
path to exile could be an option as well
Stillmoon cav? Immune PTE / oring/ terror |
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aldaryn
Joined: 02 Sep 2004 Posts: 501
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Posted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 11:26 pm Post subject: |
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| well, if budget is not an issue, the blue adds so much to the deck, with rafiq, war monk, possibly cryptic command |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 2148
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:09 am Post subject: |
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| Rafiq of the Many is by far the strongest card in an exalted deck. |
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Jacois
Joined: 05 Sep 2004 Posts: 721
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:18 am Post subject: |
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| I would suggest adding Noble Heirarchs, Bant Charms and Rhox War Monks. |
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thranarama
Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 203
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 10:34 am Post subject: |
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| You don't run cards because the have exalted. You run good cards and some of them just happen to have exalted (Like Hiearch and Rafiq). |
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ILikeBananas
Joined: 01 Aug 2006 Posts: 195
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 12:43 pm Post subject: |
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| thranarama wrote: | | You don't run cards because the have exalted. You run good cards and some of them just happen to have exalted (Like Hiearch and Rafiq). |
Exactly. Constructed worthy decks are generally not about themes. It's about a collection of good cards, preferably with synergies. Exalted has synergies with other creatures but some cards are just too subpar for constructed purposes.
I recommend splashing blue for rafiq. Also run wilt leaf cavaliers and liege. Also run a set of cryptic commands to offset the risk of being wrathed. It can also tap down opposing armies for the final swing.
I don't think the W/G little kid deck is good anymore. If you want to give it a spin, just run the best W/G cards plus Sigiled Paladin and noble hierach for the small exalted boost. |
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Kilink
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| ILikeBananas wrote: |
I don't think the W/G little kid deck is good anymore. If you want to give it a spin, just run the best W/G cards plus Sigiled Paladin and noble hierach for the small exalted boost. |
What Exactly do you mean with WG little kid deck?.-. |
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Kilink
Joined: 08 Feb 2009 Posts: 71
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Posted: Sun Feb 22, 2009 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Ends u like this:
// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)
// Lands
3 [SHM] Wooded Bastion
5 [10E] Forest (3)
6 [ALA] Plains (4)
2 [EVE] Flooded Grove
2 [SHM] Mystic Gate
4 [ALA] Island (3)
2 [ALA] Seaside Citadel
// Creatures
3 [LRW] Knight of Meadowgrain
2 [ALA] Battlegrace Angel
3 [ALA] Akrasan Squire
2 [LRW] Gaddock Teeg
3 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
2 [ALA] Elspeth, Knight-Errant
2 [ALA] Sigiled Paladin
2 [CFX] Noble Hierarch
2 [ALA] Rafiq of the Many
3 [ALA] Rhox War Monk
2 [SHM] Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers
2 [SHM] Wilt-Leaf Liege
// Spells
3 [LRW] Oblivion Ring
3 [SHM] Barkshell Blessing
3 [LRW] Cryptic Command
// Sideboard
SB: 3 [SHM] Vexing Shusher
SB: 2 [10E] Story Circle
SB: 2 [10E] Wrath of God
SB: 3 [SHM] Elvish Hexhunter
SB: 2 [CFX] Filigree Fracture
SB: 3 [CFX] Path to Exile |
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Messyah
Joined: 30 Apr 2008 Posts: 22
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I was actually just hatching out a deck similar to this last night and today. Was glad to find some other ideas, but I can forgotten all about Finks and War Monk. |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 2148
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Posted: Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:13 pm Post subject: |
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In a aggro-deck, you want to minimize the variations of your options and the gameplan needs to be in the singular. There is a Best Curve, and you want to have that every game. Each turn has a best drop, and that is what you need to play to maximize the chances of overwhelming the opponent.
So that many 2-drops and 3-drops in a aggro deck is pointless.
Which creature is the best 1-drop? Noble Hierarch or Akrasan Squire? The answer is Noble Hierarch. So run 4 of him.
Best 2-drop? Gaddock Teeg. Run 4 (ignore the Legendary drawback. You want to play it turn 2, and you need to maximize your possibility of getting one of him out of 8 or 9 cards).
Best 3-drop? Rhox War Monk. Run 4.
Best 4-drop? Rafiq of the Many. Run 4. Same reason as above.
So far 16 creatures. You need 22-25 of them in a deck like this. You use three colours, so you need cip tapped lands like Seaside Citadel and Vivid Meadow, which prohibits consistently having green for Hierarch as well as white for Squire. Concentrate the curve around the 2-drop segment instead.
Second best 2-drop is Knight of the Meadowgrain. Run 4. Second best 3-drop is Kitchen Finks. Run 4.
24 creatures. Time to have some backup for them.
You could have many types of backup in there. Cryptic Command, Negate, Bant Charm, Path to Exile, Loxodon Warhammer, Shield of the Oversoul, Elspeth, Oblivion Ring are all obvious choices. You don't need any of those to be 4-of, since they can and will be played later in the game than your creatures. |
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Egnirys
Joined: 31 Mar 2005 Posts: 158
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: |
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Great advice by Ved
But do you think you should still run Cryptic with Teeg?
And why not Sigiled Paladin over Meadowgrain, the difference being exalted vs. lifelink? |
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Vedrfolner
Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 2148
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Posted: Sun Mar 01, 2009 8:57 am Post subject: |
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No you shouldn't run Cryptic Command as long as you have 4 Gaddock Teeg. 1UUU is difficult to balance along with the production of G turn 1, so maybe it is for the best that it is not played, despite its tapout function.
Only extensive playtesting will tell you if Gaddock Teeg is more important than Cryptic Command.
Exalted is an ok ability, but the lifelink has a greater impact on the game in most instances. While Gaddock is good vs control, Meadowgrain is good vs aggro and so they are a good team. |
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