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Triggers



Joined: 08 Sep 2008
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mana base is tough, esp with only having 1 blue card, but i get ziggeraut covers that..

4x pool
4x zigg
4x orchard
4x basics
2x b/w pain ( thoughtseize)
4x g/b pain ( thoughtseize )

problem is that only gives you ..

7 lands for turn 1 thoughtsieze ( if you on the play )

and possible 11 if they drop a swamp or vivid.. if your on the draw..

the green look good.. 10 lands for noble / birds and possibly 14 on the draw..
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rdeg87



Joined: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 313

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only thing you can do is test it out, you'll know if your being too greedy with the mana.
I could be wrong but it looks insanly inconsistant. You may have to keep it to 3 colours
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polybus



Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't forget murmuring bosk. I would change the paths to exile to nameless inversion to make murmuring bosk slightly better and drop the basics plan in favor of different multilands. Too much pain is bad so i would sprinkle in some color washer lands.
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Triggers



Joined: 08 Sep 2008
Posts: 112

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pain lands arnt too bad, esp only having 6 of them...

I guess he could run murming bosk > the g/b pain land...

its pretty much always going to come into play tapped with only 4 ( 6 if you cut PTE for nameless, which i dont think is a good idea )

That also drops your options for turn 1 birds/noble/thoughtsieze down unless you have doran in your hand...
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JimmyXu



Joined: 12 Nov 2007
Posts: 62

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 12:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love when people post a decklist and give an explanation for all the cards. That's all well and good. A justification is nice also...

but what's with the useless comments next to the cards?

"4 Doran the seige tower (5/5 for 3 what?)"

I realize MTG is a game but... really? why?
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rdeg87



Joined: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 313

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
thanks for the great comments on the lands. anyone test this yet?


How about you test it yourself, it is YOUR deck.
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Conway



Joined: 12 Jan 2006
Posts: 26

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:03 pm    Post subject: um Reply with quote

noobmellow is so awesome. Rolling Eyes
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rdeg87



Joined: 29 Apr 2007
Posts: 313

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i dont share my test results you test if you want to see results


But this is a forum, its all about sharing.
But sometimes its about being lazy and trying to get other people to test idea's for you.
But mostly its about sharing Rolling Eyes
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Vedrfolner



Joined: 04 Apr 2006
Posts: 2325

PostPosted: Mon Feb 09, 2009 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

10 games is the absolute minimum amount of testing you should do before you post a decklist and ask for help. Most of the tips you will get at this point should be quite obvious if you did some testing first.

I wouldn't bother asking for help before the deck is close to optimal in my eyes, but still not performing good enough.

Your decklist looks more like an untested idea than an actual physical (or digital) deck. The "6 painlands" shows that the decklist isn't even complete.

Also, people knows what the cards do. It is not necessary to explain what the cards do, but a little bit of explanation of what the deck as a whole is supposed to do and be good against is helpful.
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s8n



Joined: 29 Jan 2009
Posts: 7

PostPosted: Tue Feb 10, 2009 1:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

noobmellow wrote:
rdeg87 wrote:
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thanks for the great comments on the lands. anyone test this yet?


How about you test it yourself, it is YOUR deck.


i did. it beats pretty much anything in the meta now. just can't handle

gg noobzors.

i dont share my test results you test if you want to see results.

stupid nub


i have a hard time believing you ever test these massive amounts of decks you're cranking out... i think i saw you post 3-4 yesterday and now this.

anyway, if you'd like to compare your deck to mine, i have an actually good deck that i've been testing which you'll find is somewhat similar. I just decided to post it after I saw this thread...

Clockwork Zoo

http://www.magic-league.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=110543#110543
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