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worldwideluv
Joined: 28 Jan 2007
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 Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 3:57 pm Post subject: All-In-Niv |
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Heres a new deck idea i came up with. played out well in the few tests ive put it through. haven't worked on sb yet so suggestions in that regard are especially welcome.
// Lands
4 [EVE] Cascade Bluffs
4 [10E] Shivan Reef
4 [GP] Steam Vents
8 [ALA] Mountain (3)
2 [ALA] Island (3)
// Creatures
3 [GP] Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
4 [EVE] Mindwrack Liege
4 [PLC] Simian Spirit Guide
// Spells
3 [9E] Teferi's Puzzle Box
3 [10E] Goblin Lore
4 [8E] Curiosity
4 [MR] Seething Song
4 [CS] Rite of Flame
2 [EVE] Clout of the Dominus
4 [9E] Mana Leak
3 [TSP] Ancestral Vision
// Sideboard
SB: 4 [LRW] Cryptic Command
SB: 4 [10E] Hurkyl's Recall
SB: 4 [SHM] Flame Javelin
SB: 3 [10E] Remove Soul
matchups are basically similar to allinred with a little less clout and a bit more reach |
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ik
Joined: 11 Sep 2007
Posts: 316
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Mindwrack Leige seems terrible no offense... (throw in ophidian eye!! xD) |
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TugaChampion
Joined: 26 Jan 2006
Posts: 568
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject: |
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It's just like All in red but more inconsistent, takes pain from lands, deploys worst treats and doesn't play blood moon effects.
All in all it's just worst than all in red (which is already a terrible deck and I wish everyone played it).
However it does get style point for playing Niv-Mizzet and Curiosity. |
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Scraendor
Joined: 19 May 2008
Posts: 40
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 5:52 pm Post subject: |
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| it seems like if it goes all in enough the combo beats red str8 up |
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ransom3
Joined: 01 Oct 2007
Posts: 183
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 6:52 pm Post subject: |
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| only 3 Niv-Mizzet???? Really??? Do you win so often with this deck that you thought that winning 75% as often would be better? And you should find a better substitute for Mindwrack Liege. Its ability is not very useful when you only have 7 decent creatures in your deck. |
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asamodious
Joined: 20 Sep 2005
Posts: 343
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| Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 7:43 pm Post subject: |
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wow
this deck is a mess
your playing a bunch of crappy cards.
you cant even go all in on niv unless you have manamorph..
niv is much much worse then dues
youre playing curiousity which sucks unless you go "all-in" on niv.
seething song sucks in this deck unless you have manamorph, cause you cant cast anything off it raelly.
goblin lore? teferi's puzzle box? wtf? those cards are only good if u get niv in play.
you shouldnt be playing a deck that trys to get one dude into play, and it cant even do it fast and consitently. and to compile the decks problems you added cards that are only good if u get niv into play.. |
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r3wind
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 1254
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| Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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The only reason to add Blue to an All In deck would be Mind's Desire. Only 3 Vision? Really? I think that I would play 4. Lotus Bloom, Mox, and Desire are crying to be in this deck.
So yeah it could be fun. |
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asamodious
Joined: 20 Sep 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:03 am Post subject: |
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| R3wind wrote: | The only reason to add Blue to an All In deck would be Mind's Desire. Only 3 Vision? Really? I think that I would play 4. Lotus Bloom, Mox, and Desire are crying to be in this deck.
So yeah it could be fun. |
Desire and Bloom do not want to be in this deck at all.
The whole point of this deck prior to him adding blue (thus making it much worse) was to get out t1 6/6 with trample.
But yes, mox is good in this deck.
In all honesty if you dont draw manamorph its impossible to get out niv before t3, which is not fast enough. and even then, it doesnt have haste and you have to wait a turn to try and drop curiousity.
The deck was playable (and good) before because it could go t1 dues alot of the time and then back it up with blood moon.
You took at all the cards that made the deck win and added cards that will make it lose. |
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r3wind
Joined: 24 Jul 2006
Posts: 1254
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| Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2009 11:12 am Post subject: |
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My point was that you could Desire in Niv and a lot of draw spells. Also Bloom is free off of Desire uping the storm count for the next Desire into more draw.
But yeah it is strickly worsererer then All-In-RED. Not that AIR is super great in my testing.
The Niv deck would at least be more fun with Desire and Bloom. |
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