the best glass cannon in the format?

JimmyXu · Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 62

Astral Slide (version ran by Gabe Walls, Cedric Phillips at GP: LA) has favorable matchups against Zoo, Burn, Faeries, Elves, and (with Lightning Rifts in Cedric's version) Loam Rock. It doesn't stand a chance against TEPS and is seems even against Affinity. WIth the predicted hate that will come against TEPS because of the GP results, is Slide the deck to play now?

ik · Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 316

How does it beat elves?

toor · Joined: 02 Sep 2005 Posts: 55

Not sure it beats faeries either especially now that its a known quantity

asamodious · Joined: 20 Sep 2005 Posts: 340

coolcreep · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 560

seems like the kind of deck that is really good when you dont expect it, but pretty easy to handle when you do. If everyone had seen the tezzerator list a week before PT: Berlin, I don't think it would have made top8.

Trotsky1 · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1665

The value of playing a deck that has not been tested against is not to be underestimated. People miss play alot lot more even after they know the full list. If there's not a clear one deck your comfortable with or just feel like having some fun nurturing your creative side I recommend it.

Malakai97 · Joined: 11 Aug 2007 Posts: 58

Anyone remember 43 lands at Legacy worlds a few years ago? You're better off running the deck that beats 80% of the field but rolls over to the other 20% than to take something that's ~50% against everything.

JimmyXu · Joined: 12 Nov 2007 Posts: 62

agree completely... and this is the idea that I was getting at. Its good against everything except affinity which is close to 50/50 and TEPS which must be something like 95/5.

Regardless, in reference to the matchups. I came to these conclusions using two things. First, Astral Slide has always dominated any deck that tries to win through creatures. Second, Cedric Phillips was T2 in the GP: LA PTQ. You don't get that far having a deck that's not good against some of the top decks. ALso, remember that Gabe Walls was 9-0 at one point. I'm pretty sure he got paired against TEPS a couple times during day 2.

rdeg87 · Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 277

I really dont understand how the deck did so well.
personally I think its down to lucky matchups.
Yes I realise the deck went 9-0 day 1.
but the deck went 2-1-3 day 2, which I think shows its true colours.
I love Astral Slide, but the deck has absolutly no way of beating combo, and has a bad matchup against Fae

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 1031

Can't really see it beating all in red either.

Truth- · Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 37

Can Anyone link me to a list? I cant seem to find it.

Truth- · Joined: 03 Dec 2006 Posts: 37

Nevermind I found them.

I like this list.

// Lands
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Stomping Ground
1 Temple Garden
1 Mountain
1 Plains
2 Forest
3 Windswept Heath
1 Ghost Quarter
2 Wooded Foothills
3 Forgotten Cave
3 Secluded Steppe
4 Tranquil Thicket
2 Flagstones of Trokair

// Creatures
3 Gaddock Teeg
4 Loxodon Hierarch
1 Eternal Witness
3 Cloudthresher
3 Duergar Hedge-Mage

// Spells
2 Lightning Rift
4 Astral Slide
4 Lightning Helix
3 Life from the Loam
1 Ajani Vengeant
2 Spark Spray
4 Edge of Autumn

// Sideboard
SB: 3 Ancient Grudge
SB: 4 Ethersworn Canonist
SB: 2 Slice and Dice
SB: 2 Kitchen Finks
SB: 4 Vexing Shusher

ik · Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Posts: 316

More Slice n dice in main (btw that was a dumb question for me to ask... idk why i forgot it played that)

jakeywakey · Joined: 17 May 2007 Posts: 39

imo, the deck is really, really, good. i dont know why people havent been playing it all along.... i dont like slice and dice as much as spark spray tho, i think spark spray and edge of autumn are really what make the difference in the deck. evoking a thresher, then saccing a land to slide him is just nutty.

rdeg87 · Joined: 29 Apr 2007 Posts: 277