Pauper Magic, specified b&r list

CMA-Flippi · Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:55 am Post subject: Pauper Magic, specified b&r list

In the last master, we saw Blink decks dominating the Extended Pauper format.

Therefore, I am starting this poll to see whether you'd like Momentary Blink banned or not, the idea of this poll is not to decide about banning Momentary Blink. That decision is made by staff only. But we can see how the players think about Momentary Blink

Trotsky1 · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 1674

Personally I think mulldrifter is the more degenerate card in a format full of commons.

FreshVeggies · Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 19

Is there a breakdown of the decks used in the master anywhere? Maybe Aggro just didn't make a very dominant show in the master like people thought so everyone played control decks which would lose to a WUx deck.

Farseer · Joined: 03 Oct 2004 Posts: 41

Pauper Master T8 decks: http://www.magic-league.com/decks/archive/53/1x_pauper.html

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"Blink Decks" made up 4 of the top 8; but UR Storm won the Master. This was only the first large-scale pauper tournament so people will need a chance to meta for blink decks. I say leave things alone until you get more data.

I would suggest running more 8/16 max ext Pauper minis. If Blink decks consistently WIN, then there is a problem.

FreshVeggies · Joined: 21 Dec 2008 Posts: 19

I meant all the decks for the event, not just the top 8s, but you are exactly right, we need more time to break this meta.

mrwegle · Joined: 24 Aug 2006 Posts: 30

I think that problem isn't blink or drifter.
The problem was that most of us found this deck in internet changed 0-12 card and played master.For example I played 6 rounds in master and 4 of them was blink. If m-l wants continie with this format we just need wait when the meta will change (I sure it will),if not then ban it.

CMA-Flippi · Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 7:15 am Post subject:

Ok, I've heard a few ideas now and I think we need to wait a while before changing the banned & restricted list of Pauper. Blink is not dominating and can be easily beaten (controldecks?)

Acid_Christ · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 742

I agree more testing needs to be done and more than likely alot of the decks were just copy/paste and not much thought was put into it. Im afraid it just won't be that big of a format to ever warrant a banned list.

Was Cranial Plating banned after some major testing, or was it just banned outright because its bad ass?

IMO, tutor cards are what need to be checked into being banned. Trinket Mage case in point.

r3wind · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 1254

How can Mulldrifter not be an issue? In the format it is a 3 for 1 trade that has a free 10 turn clock. With signets you can even power it out faster.

Ownj00 · Joined: 27 Apr 2005 Posts: 86

i'm one of the active members of pdcmagic.com that has been playing these pauper formats for years now, and i can safely say that blink isn't degenerate.

orzhov blink and WBU blink decks were hugely popular when we first started playing pauper extended (then called Future Extended, because it was about a year before the official rotations would take effect). the deck is very solid, and its one of the first decks that jumps out at you when you first sit down to brainstorm ideas. this made it disproportionately popular for a long while.

but after time, the deck became less and less of a problem as the less obvious decks slowly popped up as people discovered them. the format has the tools to make blink fair, and many people think it's not even in the very top tier anymore.

Acid_Christ · Joined: 28 Aug 2004 Posts: 742

Ownj00

Is this something only done online?

coolcreep · Joined: 18 Feb 2006 Posts: 560

at first I thought the deck needed either blink or mulldrifter banned, but now I think giving people a chance to beat the deck is a better route. Also, this is probably the last time ext. pauper will be a "big deal" to the site, as other formats are only chosen as masters on christmas.