Two New Decks: B/W Tokens & Vengeant Reveillark

JSUOversoul · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 110

Ok guys, before anyone points me to the Worlds decklist page or lists one of them on here, I've already looked at all of them. If you've read anything I've put on here before, I don't straight-copy anybody, I pick a deck I like & make my own. So anyways, here are my takes on these two decks. Comments/suggestions welcome. B/W Token deck won FNM this past Friday, going 5-0 in the process. The R/W 'Lark deck is different from most builds, mostly because I didn't like the only maindeck source of removal being Ajani. I had to cut Mind Stone to make the room, but I'm happy with the way it's played.

Black/White Tokens
4 - Fetid Heath
4 - Caves of Koilos
4 - Arcane Sanctum
4 - Windbrisk Heights
3 - Plains
2 - Swamp
2 - Reflecting Pool

4 - Tidehollow Sculler
4 - Cloudgoat Ranger
3 - Kitchen Finks
2 - Knight of the White Orchid
2 - Marsh Flitter

4 - Bitterblossom
4 - Spectral Procession
3 - Ajani Goldmane
3 - Glorious Anthem
3 - Unmake
3 - Terror
2 - Thoughtseize

Sideboard:
4 - Burrenton Forge-Tender
3 - Stillmoon Cavalier
3 - Wispmare
3 - Wrath of God
2 - Thoughtseize

Vengeant Reveillark
4 - Mountain
4 - Plains
4 - Rugged Prairie
4 - Battlefield Forge
4 - Reflecting Pool
4 - Windbrisk Heights

4 - Figure of Destiny
4 - Kitchen Finks
3 - Ranger of Eos
3 - Siege-Gang Commander
3 - Reveillark
3 - Knight of Meadowgrain
3 - Murderous Redcap
1 - Flamekin Harbinger
1 - Mirror Entity

4 - Ajani Vengeant
4 - Incinerate
3 - Oblivion Ring

Sideboard:
3 - Fulminator Mage
3 - Wrath of God
3 - Guttural Response
2 - Burrenton Forge-Tender
2 - Wispmare
2 - Pyroclasm

So there ya go. Like I said, Tokens went 5-0, it beat a not-that-great RDW, some jank U/B non-Faerie deck, 5CC, one mirror match, and Faeries. Again, I'm not looking for links to other decklists, just simple advice for possible changes/sideboarding vs. different decks.

thranarama · Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 203

With the tokens deck, I think you are ok with only 4 copies of a removal spell, simply because your creatures are better than theirs due to Ajani and Anthem. 4 Seizes and 4 Scullers MD is what really pushes this deck through vs. the 5 color and Faeries matchups. If you can win those game 1's, you are in really good shape to take the match.

With the Reveilark deck, you'd probably want your "removal" to be more burn, just so you can race the opponent better, and it fits the theme of the deck better. I would suggest probably Flame Javelin or Puncture Blast.

Dracon_ian · Joined: 13 May 2008 Posts: 66

I'd suggest puncture blast over flame javelin, easier to cast, and the wither will be more helpful if you end up against big tough creatures (e.g. collossus with them leaving mana open all the time).

Chaosweaver · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 1349 Location: Igloo town

i've been testing the lark deck and even played 24 lands, the deck I find and others too is pretty inconsistant. Even with pile shuffling I have had a hard time getting at least 3 lands at times.

The thing with tokens is it doesn't have mass removal, so when you're opp either clasms or plays like 6 big threats you're done.

Dracon_ian · Joined: 13 May 2008 Posts: 66

I'd cut rangers down to either 2 or 3, there's only 5 targets in the deck and they can't be brought back by lark, so I would cut down to three, and add an extra lark and knight.

I think 24 land is a bit too much for what is an aggro deck, not sure what to cut it down to, I'd think 22, but I'd need to test it to be sure of that.

JSUOversoul · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 110

Thanks for the comments. The token deck has mass removal in the board when needed, and if they are spending large amounts of mana to make one large creature, odds are my 7-8 or sometimes more smaller creatures are still going to get through FTW, esp. with Anthem or Ajani on board. I debated only running 3 Ranger of Eos in the 'Lark deck, but running 4 has been great, and even though there are only a few targets for it, all of those targets are returnable with 'Lark, which has made the Rangers worth having a set of. And 24 land is very much needed IMO in the 'Lark deck, it helps you hit 5 mana for either 'Lark or Siege-Gang consistently, much like RDW needs 24 for Demigod. Also, late-game if you can fetch up the Mirror Entity with the Harbinger and manage to make it stick for a turn, then you can put that mana to good use. Won a game during testing after they killed 'Lark & I brought back a Commander & the Mirror Entity. Swung for around 50 the next turn.

Also, one of my playtest group members suggested possibly replacing the two Marsh Flitters with 2 Profane Commands. Thoughts on that, anyone?

r3wind · Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Posts: 1254

I hope that you understand that you are really missing a chance with the Lark deck to do a lot of extra damage with Mirror Entity and something like Murderous Redcap. There has to be a way to do in standard and I am sure that will have something to due with stacking the triggers the correct way. Is there something that gives +1/+1 counters on CIP?

JSUOversoul · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 110

Good point. I believe you can stack the Mirror triggers with Redcap. 'Cap's CIP ability goes on stack, activate Entity in response, then the Redcap ability resolves, checking its new power. Is this correct? Anyway, I tested the deck with the Redcap and that was a good point, hate I missed it the first time. Decklist has been updated. I removed 1 Ranger, 1, Siege-Gang, and 1 O-Ring for 3 Redcaps.

Welran · Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 54

vengant lark usualy have 4 mogg fanatics aтв 1 burrenton forge-tender in main and 4 rangers and spectral processions

Chaosweaver · Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Posts: 1349 Location: Igloo town

w.e;; RW is just a hihg curve aggro deck :/ and don't cut the rangers, it can open up for a more tool box effect.

JSUOversoul · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 110

I realize that. I'm not a fan of the Procession in this deck, I'd rather have something else I can bring back with 'Lark, and Mogg is good, I just don't need it. Like I said, I'm not worried about what the deck "normally" has, this is my own build.

Vedrfolner · Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 2148

Stillmoon Cavalier also in the sideboard of the RW deck? Is Bitterblossom/Oblivion Ring such a problem that you need Wispmare? If not, +2 Cavalier -2 Wispmare.

-1 or -2 Glorious Anthem in the Token deck, +1 or +2 Elspeth.

2 Thoughtseize is useless. Run 4 or 0. I would take out Marsh Flitter for them.

grendel_mtg · Joined: 18 Oct 2008 Posts: 10

I put together the B/W Tokens and it seems much more consistent than the BGR Token deck. However, I am confused on the value of using the Windbrisk Heights. Every time I dig I lose instants I could use and not exactly sure what is worth hiding. What am I missing?

theboomshite · Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Posts: 118

Can someone let me know why flamekin harbingers are appearing more than burrenton in main decks...i would think burrenton is way better, and what does the harbinger even get...reveillark...