Suicide Black in vintage.

Hank333 · Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 304 Location: San Antoni

This is going to be my first time playing vintage. When i last played it we called it T1. It is a mox tourney, and i thought it would be fun to play. I have most of the cards(other then the power) for a suicide black tendrils/will strategy. I just needed some advice on card choices, since i know nothing about vintage, but i figure no one in my area knows anything so...

Dark Ritual 4
Cabal Ritual 4
Duress 4
Thoughtsieze 3
Cabal Therapy 2
Dark Confidant 4
Tendrils of Agony 2
Grim tutor 2
Demonic Consoltation 1
time twister 1
night whispers 1
Vampiric Tutor 1
Demonic Tutor 1
Imperical Tutor 1
Necropotence 1
mystical tutor 1
time walk 1
ancestrial recall 1
ponder 1
brainstorm 1
Yawgmoth's Will 1
Sensies Diving Top 2
Echoing Truth 1
Lotus Petal 1
Black Lotus 1
Mox Jet 1
Mox Saphire 1
Polluted Delta 4
Bloodstained Mire 3
Swamp 4
Underground Sea 3
Library of Alexandria 1

Sb.
Leyline of the void 4
Rebuild 3
Massacer 2
Diabolic Edict 2
Bayou 1
Xania Swarm 3

Right now i have been trying to keep the stradegy cheap(in terms of mana cost) and have not added Minds Desire or Yawgmoths Bargian. should I? should i cut timetwister, as its uses are limited? Do i need an alternate win condition? I was thinking i could add a couple of tarmogoyfs and regrowth with green. Should i try to be more disruptive with Wastelands and Strip mines? I figure Sensies Diving top + Dark confidant can be a alternate win path. Is 9 "duresses" enough, too much or not enough? SB needs tweaking too i am sure.

Could i also consider modifying the deck to included Ad Nassea?
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SniperMayer · Joined: 31 Jan 2008 Posts: 233

Other win condition can be tombstalker.

twodioz · Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 120

I would consider adding ad nauseum. It seems like the best unrestricted car for your deck. Then you could consider chrome mox as well.

Add burning wish maybe for resilience.

trueeevil · Joined: 08 Dec 2007 Posts: 254

So this is suicide black how?

HdH_Cthulhu · Joined: 24 Dec 2006 Posts: 31

ZW · Joined: 25 Apr 2008 Posts: 228

Lenin · Joined: 23 Jan 2007 Posts: 87

this random pile is NOT suicide black.
Its called TPS- The Pathetic Storm!

Hank333 · Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 304 Location: San Antoni

I'd refer everyone to the 2007 vintage world championship. That is where the base of the deck desing came from, along with the name "suicide black." Thanks for the help.... or the flame?
If you look at the list, you'd see that its got 20 cards that kill yourself a little.

Hank333 · Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 304 Location: San Antoni

Vincent Forino, Suicide Black
2007 Vintage Championship Top 8
Main Deck

60 cards

2 Bazaar of Baghdad
3 Bloodstained Mire
1 Cabal Pit
1 Library of Alexandria
3 Polluted Delta
1 Strip Mine
4 Swamp
2 Underground Sea
1 Wasteland

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18 lands

4 Dark Confidant

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4 creatures 1 Ancestral Recall
1 Black Lotus
4 Cabal Ritual
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Dark Ritual
1 Demonic Consultation
1 Demonic Tutor
4 Duress
1 Echoing Truth
2 Extirpate
3 Grim Tutor
1 Lotus Petal
1 Mox Jet
1 Mox Sapphire
1 Necropotence
3 Night's Whisper
3 Tendrils of Agony
1 Vampiric Tutor
1 Yawgmoth's Will

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38 other spells
Sideboard

1 Chain of Vapor
1 Darkblast
1 Hurkyl's Recall
2 Ill-Gotten Gains
4 Leyline of the Void
2 Massacre
3 Null Rod
1 Wasteland

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15 sideboard cards

I would guess everyone would argue that wizards doesn't know how to name decks, i could agree with that. But you all suck.

warwizard87 · Joined: 04 Oct 2006 Posts: 71

not sure why wizards called that suicide black its either TEPS or bob tendrials, your build is decent especialy in a low powerd enviroment.

Vito · Joined: 24 Oct 2009 Posts: 32

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
9 [GUR] Swamp
9 [UNH] Swamp

// Creatures
1 [ON] Grinning Demon
1 [JGC] Phyrexian Negator
4 [TO] Nantuko Shade
3 [M10] Hypnotic Specter
4 [EX] Carnophage

// Spells
1 [A] Black Lotus
1 [A] Mox Jet
1 [MR] Chrome Mox
1 [SH] Mox Diamond
4 [A] Dark Ritual
1 [VI] Vampiric Tutor
4 [OD] Entomb
1 [A] Demonic Tutor
1 [US] Yawgmoth's Will
4 [UL] Unearth
4 [ARE] Duress
3 [FNM] Reanimate
3 [US] Exhume

here's my idea for suicide black...no sb yet but i haven't decided if i'm using it or not...what do ya'll think?