Cruel Control List for States (Help!)

JSUOversoul · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 34

Ok, so usually I don't play control, I like more aggro-ish decks like RDW and such, but I'm bored with them. So for states, I'm going to try my hand with Cruel Control. I know it's one of the best decks in the format, but since I don't usually play control, I'm looking for advice on either card additions/cuts, as well as how to sideboard against the different top-tier decks I might come across at States (Faeries, the mirror, White Weenie, Elves, etc.). Anyway, here's the list I've been working on for about 2 weeks. It's tested pretty well, but sometimes I just feel I don't make the correct sideboarding choices.

Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

Lands
2 [SHM] Mystic Gate
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
2 [LRW] Vivid Grove
2 [EVE] Flooded Grove
2 [LRW] Vivid Marsh
2 [LRW] Vivid Meadow
4 [LRW] Vivid Creek
1 [EVE] Cascade Bluffs
2 [SHM] Sunken Ruins
3 [SOA] Island (1)
1 [SHM] Graven Cairns

Creatures
4 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
4 [LRW] Mulldrifter
3 [LRW] Cloudthresher
2 [LRW] Shriekmaw
1 [EVE] Nucklavee
1 [SHM] Oona, Queen of the Fae

Spells
2 [SOA] Cruel Ultimatum
2 [SHM] Firespout
4 [LRW] Cryptic Command
3 [SOA] Esper Charm
3 [SOA] Bant Charm
2 [LRW] Makeshift Mannequin
4 [10E] Wrath of God

Sideboard
SB: 1 [LRW] Cloudthresher
SB: 3 [SHM] Vexing Shusher
SB: 3 [MOR] Negate
SB: 3 [SHM] Memory Plunder
SB: 3 [10E] Condemn
SB: 2 [MOR] Mind Shatter

Please don't just post or send a link to anyone else's list, I don't straight net-deck, I pick a deck type I like and make my own list. All help would be appreciated.

standarizeMA · Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 123

This list looks solid, the Graven Cairs in the deck is very bad concerning cloudthresher and cryptic command. Other than that I think I wouldn't play 4 wraths I might play 2 and 2 spouts to squeeze in 2 remove soul / negate.

varno345 · Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 88

ok here's wat u should do:
-2 wog, +2 liliana vess or mind shatter(if u put mind shatter in, take it out of the board and put jace in the place of it)

JSUOversoul · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 34

Ok, I cut the Graven Cairns for one more Flooded Grove. Anyone have any sideboarding advice?

standarizeMA · Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Posts: 123

I agree with Mind shatter, it probably is better. However if your on the play life is so much easier when you counter turn 2 bitterblossom.

tkoreborn · Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 5

ok the list ive been testing was actually kind of taken it is the almost exact list that erwin spoiled but theres not jace in it..my meta is aggro so i built this and have been testing it here..so heres the list.

1 cascade bluffs
2 flooded grove
2 mystic gates
2 sunken ruins
4 reflecting pool
4 vivid creek
3 vivid grove
3 vivid meadow
2 vivid marsh
3 islan

4 kitchen finks
4 mulldrifter
1 knucklavee
2 cloudthresher
1 skriekmaw

3 bant charm
3 esper charm
4 cryptic command
1 makeshift manaquin
3 negate

SBD:
2 cloudthresher-fae/mirror-you need the extra threat in the mirror
1 skriekmaw-kithkin/mirror/elves-good blocker or evasion
1 negate- mirror/elves-to stop profane and other card advantage spells
1 firespout-fae/elves/kithkin
1 mindshatter-mirror/aggro-you want to w.o.g. then mind shatter and put aggro into top deck mode
3 vexing shusher-fae/mirror-its a beater against fae until the land oona
2 counterbore(still kinda iffy)reveillark/and some control
1 oona,Queen of the fae-mirror/some aggro-you need the extra threath in the mirror but dont board them if your susp. of them boarding sower.
3 condemn-contol/mirror/demigod-when you need that extra umph.

if you have any question ask away. and if your not sure what to take out ill post. just let me know.

varno345 · Joined: 14 Feb 2007 Posts: 88

im dissappointed that there's no cruel ultimatum

gypsy · Joined: 15 Jun 2007 Posts: 921

i like how you copy/pasted the list from the cruise qualifier with missing cards to make the deck less than 60 and claim it as your own.

tkoreborn · Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 5

gypsy i think you need to quit with the theories b4 you get smacked with a trout lol

2 cruel ultim.(i forgot them)
and if i woulda copy pasted them they woulda been in the list
and were also testing raven's crime for the mirror

and i didnt copy paste the list...ive been testing with chapin and erwin...if you dont believe me go to face book and look up bryant short...and look under my friends.
i didnt say it was MY list that i alone created...it was our
list that the six of us have been testing.

JSUOversoul · Joined: 08 May 2007 Posts: 34

K, thanks for posting your deck and taking away my topic....

Anyway, does anyone have advice for how to sideboard with this deck against the top-tier decks expected to be at States? For MY list, at the top of this thread....

bagina · Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 105

heres teh current list im fiddling with. its even slower than urs. the know it alls shoudl have a field day with it!

// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)

// Lands
4 [LOR] Vivid Creek
4 [LOR] Vivid Crag
4 [LOR] Vivid Marsh
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
4 [SHM] Mystic Gate
3 [SHM] Sunken Ruins
3 [EVE] Cascade Bluffs

// Creatures
4 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
3 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archmage
4 [LOR] Mulldrifter
2 [EVE] Nucklavee
2 [ALA] Empyrial Archangel

// Spells
1 [10E] Condemn
4 [LOR] Cryptic Command
3 [LOR] Makeshift Mannequin
3 [SHM] Firespout
4 [10E] Wrath of God
2 [ALA] Kiss of the Amesha
2 [ALA] Cruel Ultimatum

// Sideboard
SB: 3 [10E] Condemn
SB: 1 [SHM] Firespout
SB: 1 [ALA] Kiss of the Amesha
SB: 4 [ALA] Naturalize
SB: 3 [MOR] Mind Shatter
SB: 3 [SHM] Wheel of Sun and Moon

bagina · Joined: 16 May 2007 Posts: 105

btw mannequin + archangel is pretty awesome. especially if ucanplay it turn 4 after discarding down to 7 cards

p_dadi03 · Joined: 18 Jul 2007 Posts: 6

Try glen elendra archmage in ur main deck you can cut a wrath

Chaval · Joined: 19 Nov 2008 Posts: 1

I would put 3 remove soul in SB and take off memory plund.

Mistbind Clique, Realm Razer, Gaddock Teeg are cards that will make u cry...

U should think about pithing neddle against plainswalkers, Fulminator mage, Nantuko Husk... I don`t think u will need 4 cloudthresher if u put the removes.