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Justin2016
Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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 Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:42 am Post subject: RGb Devour |
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I love the Jund Devour mechanic, so I have been toying with this idea for a little while. What do you think?
4xBramblewood Paragon 1G
4xSafehold Elite 1G/W
3xGravedigger 3B
3xCivic Wayfinder 2G
4xThunder-Thrash Elder 2R
3xKitchen Finks 1W/G W/G
4xSprouting Thrinax RBG
4xThorn-Thrash Vashino 3R
3xHeartmender 2G/W G/W
4xMycoloth 3GG
4xCauldron of Souls 5
Land 22
4x Savage lands
8x Forest
7x Mountain
4x Swamp
Side
4x Viridian Shaman 2G
4x Shriekmaw 4B
3x Gaea's Herald 1G
3x Predator Dragon 3RRR
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stone_d
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: |
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| Dragon fodder? |
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Delicious
Joined: 08 Jun 2007
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: |
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| have you tried profane command to bring back creatures instead of gravedigger? What about makeshift manaquien? |
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Justin2016
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:09 am Post subject: |
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The basis of the deck is to give everything and anything persist with the cauldron and then sack it off to make a big creature.
I haven't tried Makeshift, but the point of bringing a creature back in this deck is to feed it to either of the Thrash guys or the Mycoloth. So targeting with a devour would just kill it.
I haven't tried Profane Command either, but I would most likely use it for the fear or -X/-X and not the creature recursion. I like the gravediggers because thier ability triggers if they persist into play. |
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Delicious
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Justin2016 wrote: | The basis of the deck is to give everything and anything persist with the cauldron and then sack it off to make a big creature.
I haven't tried Makeshift, but the point of bringing a creature back in this deck is to feed it to either of the Thrash guys or the Mycoloth. So targeting with a devour would just kill it.
I haven't tried Profane Command either, but I would most likely use it for the fear or -X/-X and not the creature recursion. I like the gravediggers because thier ability triggers if they persist into play. |
Mycoloth doesn't target any creature. the devour ability just looks to see if you sacrificed a creature for the ability. |
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Justin2016
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| oh, ok my bad. Thanks, im still kinda partial to the gravedigger but i will give it a shot |
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Mirage
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Switch the numbers of Finks and Safehold Elite. |
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Justin2016
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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I was worried about having 2 drops, because I should be able to start sacking creatures for devour by turn 3. I will see how it affects the deck though,
Thanks |
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eroseninSama
Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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what about the devour 2 dragon with haste fying for 3RRR cc? could be a better win condition
or possibly rites of flourishing it can be deadly with a 11/11 thorn thrash elder
and i totally like dragon fodder for this especially the turn 3 devour |
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Justin2016
Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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| Posted: Tue Sep 30, 2008 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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oops, Predator Dragon 3RRR: Devour 2
my fault |
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Vedrfolner
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 2:10 am Post subject: |
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The Cauldron of Souls strategy is really bad. The reason is that casting a Devour creature while having 2 mana untapped and 2+ creatures on the board is perhaps a wet dream, but it is highly unlikely to ever occur.
I agree that Dragon Fodder should be in there. So should other token-producing cards like Hunting Triad be.
2 Mycoloth
4 Skullmulcher
4 Thorn-Trash Viashino
3 Civic Wayfinder
4 Kitchen Finks
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Llanowar Elves
3 Garruk Wildspeaker
4 Hunting Triad
4 Dragon Fodder
I think token production is more important than creating card advantage by getting non-token creatures back from graveyard. Hunting Triad plus Skullmulcher is already nice card advantage. |
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Justin2016
Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 5:23 am Post subject: |
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| Vedrfolner wrote: | | The Cauldron of Souls strategy is really bad. The reason is that casting a Devour creature while having 2 mana untapped and 2+ creatures on the board is perhaps a wet dream, but it is highly unlikely to ever occur. |
Why do you say I need 2 mana untapped? Cauldron just taps for persist, and devour doesn't cost anything but creatures? I can understand the Dragon Fodder, but i prefer cards like SafeHaven Elf and Kitchenfinks because they keep coming back for more.
As for the token production, Mycoloth makes alot of tokens if and when it stays alive, and Sproutin Thrinax makes 3 tokens whenever it dies, and with in this deck creatures dying isn't exactly a bad thing
The Cauldron may be a little off the wall, but so far the deck is running like a charm. It has a slight problem againts mass removal in early game, but its done a good job at recovering. Right now the deck is about 10-4,
Thank you for your imput though, I do appreciate it |
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Justin2016
Joined: 30 Sep 2008
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 10:19 am Post subject: |
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| Would bitterblossom be a good add? It give creatures for punkblockers and devour sacks. Btw how do i open prot 6667 so I can use the MWS? |
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Vedrfolner
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| Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2008 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Justin2016 wrote: | | Vedrfolner wrote: | | The Cauldron of Souls strategy is really bad. The reason is that casting a Devour creature while having 2 mana untapped and 2+ creatures on the board is perhaps a wet dream, but it is highly unlikely to ever occur. |
Why do you say I need 2 mana untapped? Cauldron just taps for persist, and devour doesn't cost anything but creatures? I can understand the Dragon Fodder, but i prefer cards like SafeHaven Elf and Kitchenfinks because they keep coming back for more.
As for the token production, Mycoloth makes alot of tokens if and when it stays alive, and Sproutin Thrinax makes 3 tokens whenever it dies, and with in this deck creatures dying isn't exactly a bad thing
The Cauldron may be a little off the wall, but so far the deck is running like a charm. It has a slight problem againts mass removal in early game, but its done a good job at recovering. Right now the deck is about 10-4,
Thank you for your imput though, I do appreciate it |
My bad, I thought Cauldron was that instant spell for 1G/W. The 5-mana artifact is absolutely horrible and shouldn't be played in any deck, even in Limited. Hunting Triad must be much much better! |
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Justin2016
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I politly disagree, at the very worst it is a giant bulls eye. There are very few people that main deck artifact hate, even in this format. It has proven incredible useful in this deck so far, but thank you for your input, I do appreciate it  |
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