UBW control: Post rotation standard

mossivo1986 · Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 59

#1 it needs a name
#2 it needs adjustmants in the md and the side

// Lands
4 [SOA] Arcane Sanctum
3 [LRW] Vivid Creek
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
1 [EVE] Springjack Pasture
3 [SHM] Mystic Gate
1 [EVE] Fetid Heath
2 [SHM] Sunken Ruins
5 [UNH] Island

// Creatures
4 [LRW] Mulldrifter
4 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
3 [FD] Razormane Masticore
1 [SOA] Sphinx Sovereign
3 [LRW] Shriekmaw

// Spells
4 [LRW] Makeshift Mannequin
4 [SOA] Esper Charm
4 [10E] Wrath of God
4 [LRW] Broken Ambitions
4 [10E] Mind Stone
2 [LRW] Cryptic Command

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [LRW] Shriekmaw
SB: 2 [SHM] Puppeteer Clique
SB: 3 [10E] Condemn
SB: 3 [SOA] Hindering Light
SB: 3 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 3 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archmage

This is what i've been testing for post standard play. I will discuss some things that i've noticed, and some things I think should be changed.

* I would like to go down 1 mindstone
* cryptic command or no cryptic command?
* I haven't really tested the sb.
* Is sower worth playing in this new format?
* Is the charm a 3 of or 4 of?
* Do I need some instant speed removal or is this format slow enough that I can get away with shrieks and wraths?

Any further insight would be appreciated. Let me know what you think.

Conkisstador · Joined: 08 Sep 2004 Posts: 294

#1 lithmus test
Does it be faeries?
No.
So it can't be palyed.

Yes, Esper Charm is a great answer to Blossom... but if they Seize it away for playing Blossom on turn 2 on the play- you lose.

Maindeck infest over wrath at least 2of.

ShaunD · Joined: 21 May 2005 Posts: 77

why would you only limit yourself to 3 colors? The good control decks in standard and block are all 5 color.

Trotsky1 · Joined: 12 Apr 2005 Posts: 939

Honestly I do not think faeries is the litmus test anymore RDW seems to currently be the deck to beat, if you can make a deck that beats that and lark you have something.

mossivo1986 · Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 59

ok so faeries is a tempo deck, so I add tempo breakers and I can win. Now that tempo breakers shall I add? I did not know that the block was all 5 color decks. Can I get some info on those decks? like aka decklists?

Spyx · Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 885

1 Forest
1 Murmuring Bosk
4 Reflecting Pool
4 Vivid Grove
3 Vivid Marsh
3 Vivid Creek
1 Fire-Lit Thicket
1 Sunken Ruins
1 Fetid Heath
2 Wooded Bastion
3 Flooded Grove

2 Doran, the Siege Tower
3 Cloudthresher
4 Fulminator Mage
3 Kitchen Finks
2 Horde of Notions
4 Mulldrifter
3 Shriekmaw
4 Bloom Tender
3 Cryptic Command
2 Austere Command
2 Makeshift Mannequin
1 Spitting Image
2 Nameless Inversion
1 Crib Swap

mossivo1986 · Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 59

new version:

// Lands
4 [SOA] Arcane Sanctum
3 [LRW] Vivid Creek
4 [SHM] Reflecting Pool
1 [EVE] Springjack Pasture
3 [SHM] Mystic Gate
1 [EVE] Fetid Heath
2 [SHM] Sunken Ruins
4 [UNH] Island
1 [UNH] Swamp
1 [UNH] Plains

// Creatures
4 [LRW] Mulldrifter
4 [SHM] Kitchen Finks
3 [FD] Razormane Masticore
3 [LRW] Shriekmaw
1 [SHM] Oona, Queen of the Fae

// Spells
4 [LRW] Makeshift Mannequin
3 [SOA] Esper Charm
3 [10E] Wrath of God
4 [LRW] Broken Ambitions
3 [10E] Mind Stone
3 [LRW] Cryptic Command
1 [EVE] Spitting Image

// Sideboard
SB: 1 [SHM] Puppeteer Clique
SB: 3 [LRW] Wispmare
SB: 3 [SHM] Faerie Macabre
SB: 3 [SOA] Infest
SB: 2 [EVE] Glen Elendra Archmage
SB: 2 [SOK] Pithing Needle
SB: 1 [EVE] Spitting Image

floreskiller · Joined: 06 Feb 2008 Posts: 102

I don't think Esper Charm should be in this deck at all. But I like Bant Charm and you can easily tweak the mana for that. It's hard to say at this point whether Razormane main is right. Cryptic Command should definitely go up to 4. Cut Spitting Image. It doesn't do anything and costs too much. Cut a Mannequin and Mind Stone for 2 River Kelpies. I hear they're quite good.

FallenAngel1 · Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 23

ok, your playing w/u/b and your not playing punish ignorance why? i have a w/u/g list that plays punish ignorance because it isnt really that hard to play with the pools and vivd lands. now after that, your creatures dont seem great. If you do want to play the mannequin package then dont play razormane play 0ona. i personally think that W/U/G is the way to go but its personal choice. o, btw as a faeries player, i RDW will be the best deck in the early format and faeries will SLOWLY die off, like it all ready is

magicbmx · Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Posts: 132

i am glad to see someone else thinking about wub control. see this deck was big way back in the day and well it can be big again just your list seems like 2 much going on. yes i agree on infest main but only 2 but u also need 4 wrath. i want to get into more but i dont want to give away the list i am slowly working on for states. all i will say is this u need command as a 4 of or u will just not have the staying power. tapping them down to save a turn is huge or bouncing something huge as well. also a card i will say only because its just good is rune halo. yes its only one card to deal with but seeing story circle would be just 2 rough to run right i think halo is just great. other then that i dont want to get into much else just know that i think the rg plainswalker might be huge because its fires in a way but just silly with its big -6 for the dragons

mossivo1986 · Joined: 08 Sep 2006 Posts: 59

FallenAngel1:

Razormane is AWESOME, and the deck runs enough draw to support him, Hes actually FUCKING rediculous in this format, so before you go ripping on cards you haven't tested, ill let you know right now, he's staying either as a 2 of or 3 of.

floreskiller
Esper charm is probobly the overall best charm as far as resource advantage goes, the green one is ok, but why is it better then esper? It's not, and neither is the four drop counter that wants to be a lighning bolt/ healing salve. Cryptic command is just strictly better and im not replacing command with that piece.

bedlam · Joined: 30 Sep 2006 Posts: 39

Have you considered the presence of the Espers shard when you evaluated your choice of Masticore.

I would expect a wall of artifact hate comming your way.

FallenAngel1 · Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 23

Mossivo1986:

Ok, i wasnt getting hostile but what Bedlam said was right. Do you really think that its going to be as good once people realize ho good artifacts are. Unless you really like it that much, because Ancient grudge will be played. ALSO, you want to start ripping me when your Control deck that plays Blue doesnt play 4 cryptics????? Seriously, i put my input in to it and you flipped, and its your deck play what you want, but dont ask for input if you dont want to hear it. Also, i said one line about the razormane and i have tested it and i PERSONALLY dont like it. But, its opinion. Good luck

Mind · Joined: 07 Feb 2007 Posts: 3

FallenAngel1 · Joined: 24 May 2008 Posts: 23

my apologies, it was the first thing that popped into my mind, but there will be hate for artifacts.