Magic-League AntiCheat Version 2.0

by Laplie on 2006-03-29 00:51 CET
MLAnti version 2.0 is finally finished and released. The next era in apprentice cheat detection is here!

In this version, verification codes and instance keys are no longer used. Instead, information about the person running MLAnti is sent to

This information includes servers and chatroom nicks of the user and verifies that the program is actually run. It also prevents someone from having their friend run the program, or running the program on a seperate computer.

When a cheat program is detected, a message appears in Apprentice as before.

New in version 2.0----
reprogrammed in C++
smaller and faster routines
verification codes and instance keys removed
anti-tampering + anti-disassembling measures added
mIRC script interception prevention
simpler interface
greater compatability with older versions of Windows
several small bug fixes

You may download the new version Here
Comments (33)
by IanLim on 2006-03-29 01:01 CET

wow im 1st =)

by on 2006-03-29 08:35 CET

So, has it pretty much been confirmed that pG was using bw and fooling the system every time he was tested? I know TomB and pG are pathetic cheating losers, I just want to know if it's been actually confirmed or proven.

Visara the Wonderful

by NahHolmes on 2006-03-29 10:04 CET

Yeah the new MLAnti is the jam. I give it 2 big thumbs up. No longer can cheaters get others to help them pass MLAnti. This is a great day in Apprentice history. Finally a real solution! I can't wait to watch a certain 20 match win streak end in the next 2-3 matches (and no not pG).

by marlei on 2006-03-29 13:01 CET

hmm dont understand how this works

by PV on 2006-03-29 18:38 CET

stop being paranoic, nobody has confirmed pg has cheated and you talk like it's just a matter of time before it happens...

by on 2006-03-29 20:18 CET

The new anti cheat is out awsome. now we can start catching people who take advantage of our kindness of providing a place for those who want to play magic without draining a there bank accounts.

by on 2006-03-29 20:21 CET

Oh wake up, PV. Anyone with the I.Q. of a sponge knows pG is a cheater.

And you sticking up for him is pretty pathetic. You guys have something going on we should know about? Is he your secret cheating butt-buddy?

I really wish people would stop sticking up for total LOSERS like pG. He's a cheater and everyone knows it. If they don't, then they're either stupid or blind. Or both.

by on 2006-03-29 20:22 CET

And as far as the PG issue goes he was never caught using Backwash guys and eventhough the old anti-cheat program was easy to fool you should give him the benifit of the doubt. And trust me this new program is definatly gonna cut down on cheating in ML. So cheaters.


by on 2006-03-29 20:25 CET

One more thing I wanted to ask Laplie or someone else who knows a lot about this program.

Has it been tested in a practical situation? Has someone actually downloaded BW and had it running and tested MLAnti 2 to see if it caught it?

by NahHolmes on 2006-03-29 20:39 CET

Um PV I beleive I said "NOT pG". There's a certain someone who has an 18 match in a row win streak with Magnivore of all decks. Even on your best day you will never win 18 matches in a row with a deck with only 4 win conditions (said person also runs a single Genju of the Spires in the side). As far as pG, he doesn't play anymore so who cares.

by Counterlife on 2006-03-29 20:54 CET

pG was the on and off sort of cheat. Whether his last few matches(Though, you must remember he did win MWS games too.) is irrelevant, because his biggest error was advertising BW in his away message and the frequent kick/banning he did in IRC. But either way, im hoping the new anti will fix some problems of the past. Too many shady fellows:0

by RichardDWade on 2006-03-30 02:03 CET

For purely educational reasons, I'd like to know how people cheated in the past. Not really the way, but what did they do that was cheating? And how will this new version solve all of this? In lehman's terms please

by Haro on 2006-03-30 02:38 CET

RichardDWade on 2006-03-29 19:03 EST

For purely educational reasons, I'd like to know how people cheated in the past. Not really the way, but what did they do that was cheating? And how will this new version solve all of this? In lehman's terms please

1) Hax
2) Because Laplie said so
Easy enough?

by on 2006-03-30 03:04 CET

There's a program script you can download and run in Mirc and use it to manipulate your hand, deck and your opponent's deck. There are also several other nasty things you can use it for. I'm not going to say the name of it cause it might get me in trouble, but people use it and have been caught...others have used it and not been pG. Hopefully, this new anti cheat program WILL detect it without a way to fool it.

by on 2006-03-30 03:06 CET

NahHolmes, the person you're referring to with the winning streak, playing Magnivore IS pG. He was just playing under a different name.

by on 2006-03-30 04:21 CET

pg has a few alts....i know for sure one is sasper....i played him a few times and he always had the perfect card and I drew land most of the time....kind of strange

by Lackeos on 2006-03-30 09:09 CET

Sasper definitely ran the nuts cheats on me. He did not get away with it. pG or not, I hope that they ip-ban whoever he is.
and... he definitely did try to "fool the system"

by Kaesh on 2006-03-30 12:41 CET

Nahholmes said:
"Even on your best day you will never win 18 matches in a row with a deck with only 4 win conditions (said person also runs a single Genju of the Spires in the side)."

This is the dumbest thing I've read lately.

by NahHolmes on 2006-03-30 18:05 CET

Um Kaesh just so you know the guy I was talking about basically got caught cheating (he logged out as soon as he was asked to take a cheat test). Also Magnivore.dec is a very luck based deck to a point, there is NO WAY to win 18 matches in a row with it. Sometimes people are just going to draw enough land to outpace your LD while you fail to draw win conditions. If you don't believe me goldfish it 40 games or so and see what happens.

by on 2006-03-30 18:29 CET

wtf tomb didnt use bw
how do u cheat and still lose?

by Clash on 2006-03-30 20:26 CET

Finally a new version
I hope that cheaters are finally detected with no more indulgence by judges....
(understand c..p...g...s...g...?)

by OldBear on 2006-03-31 01:58 CET

They normally find a way around it but I really hope this works, if it proves triumphant i can play with apprentice again and will be forever in debted to laplie, who should be applauded for his constant efforts.

There are obvious advantages to having people believe you cheat, but actually cheating is an entirely different issue. Ive gone 15 rounds in MWS using UGB madness across 2 trials and a master going undefeated so it is possible.

But it is true, you would have to be blind and stupid to not spot the cheats. There are far easier ways to impress stupid people such as lighting your own fart, cause your not impressing anyone else.

by saurgoth on 2006-03-31 09:10 CET

I'm sure it's not impossible to win 18 games in a row, even if it is an amazing streak of luck. As as example, I played a T2 game against DavidDittmer a few weeks back. Game 1, he drew 20 lands. 20! That's about how many turns we played. And I barely won! Understandably, he had me run mlanti, but I was not cheating. He just got really, incredibly, *seemingly impossibly* unlucky for one game (he won the next two).

by NahHolmes on 2006-03-31 10:14 CET

OK people. Goldfish Magnivore 40 times and see what happens. The guy was cheating, he got caught, GG I win. I know it's not IMPOSSIBLE to win 18 matches in a row with the deck, it's not impossible to flip 18 coins at once and get all heads it's just not going to happen. I mean if it was even a real deck it might be different, but not magnivore not gonna happen.

by MW|Core on 2006-03-31 14:23 CET

you can win 18 matches in a row with any given deck just like you can flip 18 coins and get heads 18 times (not that it´s the same but...)

by iKe on 2006-03-31 21:11 CET

Alright pretty cool Good Job

I don't understand why you people keep bitching about pG... Where does it get you in life?

by on 2006-04-01 02:45 CET

As a player accused falsely of "backwashing", I hope this new program prevents it from happening again. Sometimes a top deck is a top deck and sometimes "Magnivore" plays 5 Boomerang/stonerain effects in a row!

by on 2006-04-01 11:19 CET

the VAST majority of people cant be arsed to cheat, but i think this will put sore losers into their place

by Dzy on 2006-04-02 12:54 CET

"When a cheat program is detected, a message appears in Apprentice as before."

Good April's joke ^^

by on 2006-07-22 04:04 CET

bad for PG and PV!

IF it was true this thing worked!

by on 2006-09-10 01:59 CET

I just downloaded and ran the program; it seems decent.

I wonder, though, if it would be possible to create a program or patch for Apprentice that would automatically run MLAnti in Appr whenever a game is played. Under the status quo, you need a certain amount of psychic mind powers in order to step into your opponent's mind and figure out that s/he is using a program to cheat. If you created a program that eliminated the guesswork, you'd be a heck of a lot more successful in cracking down on dishonest players.

by Bona on 2006-10-19 19:47 CET

People, PG and PV are TWIN BROTHERS!!

by Equinox- on 2006-12-27 13:10 CET

I love how you guys are talking about PV here even though he top 8ed worlds. I'd love to see someone who cheats do that.

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