by IanLim on 2006-03-29 01:01 CET
wow im 1st =)
by Visara on 2006-03-29 08:35 CET
So, has it pretty much been confirmed that pG was using bw and fooling the system every time he was tested? I know TomB and pG are pathetic cheating losers, I just want to know if it's been actually confirmed or proven.
by NahHolmes on 2006-03-29 10:04 CET
Yeah the new MLAnti is the jam. I give it 2 big thumbs up. No longer can cheaters get others to help them pass MLAnti. This is a great day in Apprentice history. Finally a real solution! I can't wait to watch a certain 20 match win streak end in the next 2-3 matches (and no not pG).
by marlei on 2006-03-29 13:01 CET
hmm dont understand how this works
by PV on 2006-03-29 18:38 CET
stop being paranoic, nobody has confirmed pg has cheated and you talk like it's just a matter of time before it happens...
by Dark-Poodle on 2006-03-29 20:18 CET
The new anti cheat is out awsome. now we can start catching people who take advantage of our kindness of providing a place for those who want to play magic without draining a there bank accounts.
by Visara on 2006-03-29 20:21 CET
Oh wake up, PV. Anyone with the I.Q. of a sponge knows pG is a cheater.
by Dark-Poodle on 2006-03-29 20:22 CET
And as far as the PG issue goes he was never caught using Backwash guys and eventhough the old anti-cheat program was easy to fool you should give him the benifit of the doubt. And trust me this new program is definatly gonna cut down on cheating in ML. So cheaters.
by Visara on 2006-03-29 20:25 CET
One more thing I wanted to ask Laplie or someone else who knows a lot about this program.
by NahHolmes on 2006-03-29 20:39 CET
Um PV I beleive I said "NOT pG". There's a certain someone who has an 18 match in a row win streak with Magnivore of all decks. Even on your best day you will never win 18 matches in a row with a deck with only 4 win conditions (said person also runs a single Genju of the Spires in the side). As far as pG, he doesn't play anymore so who cares.
by Counterlife on 2006-03-29 20:54 CET
pG was the on and off sort of cheat. Whether his last few matches(Though, you must remember he did win MWS games too.) is irrelevant, because his biggest error was advertising BW in his away message and the frequent kick/banning he did in IRC. But either way, im hoping the new anti will fix some problems of the past. Too many shady fellows:0
by RichardDWade on 2006-03-30 02:03 CET
For purely educational reasons, I'd like to know how people cheated in the past. Not really the way, but what did they do that was cheating? And how will this new version solve all of this? In lehman's terms please
by Haro on 2006-03-30 02:38 CET
RichardDWade on 2006-03-29 19:03 EST
by Visara on 2006-03-30 03:04 CET
There's a program script you can download and run in Mirc and use it to manipulate your hand, deck and your opponent's deck. There are also several other nasty things you can use it for. I'm not going to say the name of it cause it might get me in trouble, but people use it and have been caught...others have used it and not been caught...like pG. Hopefully, this new anti cheat program WILL detect it without a way to fool it.
by Visara on 2006-03-30 03:06 CET
NahHolmes, the person you're referring to with the winning streak, playing Magnivore IS pG. He was just playing under a different name.
by rick_0066 on 2006-03-30 04:21 CET
pg has a few alts....i know for sure one is sasper....i played him a few times and he always had the perfect card and I drew land most of the time....kind of strange
by Lackeos on 2006-03-30 09:09 CET
Sasper definitely ran the nuts cheats on me. He did not get away with it. pG or not, I hope that they ip-ban whoever he is.
by Kaesh on 2006-03-30 12:41 CET
by NahHolmes on 2006-03-30 18:05 CET
Um Kaesh just so you know the guy I was talking about basically got caught cheating (he logged out as soon as he was asked to take a cheat test). Also Magnivore.dec is a very luck based deck to a point, there is NO WAY to win 18 matches in a row with it. Sometimes people are just going to draw enough land to outpace your LD while you fail to draw win conditions. If you don't believe me goldfish it 40 games or so and see what happens.
by kebe on 2006-03-30 18:29 CET
wtf tomb didnt use bw
by Clash on 2006-03-30 20:26 CET
Finally a new version
by OldBear on 2006-03-31 01:58 CET
They normally find a way around it but I really hope this works, if it proves triumphant i can play with apprentice again and will be forever in debted to laplie, who should be applauded for his constant efforts.
by saurgoth on 2006-03-31 09:10 CET
I'm sure it's not impossible to win 18 games in a row, even if it is an amazing streak of luck. As as example, I played a T2 game against DavidDittmer a few weeks back. Game 1, he drew 20 lands. 20! That's about how many turns we played. And I barely won! Understandably, he had me run mlanti, but I was not cheating. He just got really, incredibly, *seemingly impossibly* unlucky for one game (he won the next two).
by NahHolmes on 2006-03-31 10:14 CET
OK people. Goldfish Magnivore 40 times and see what happens. The guy was cheating, he got caught, GG I win. I know it's not IMPOSSIBLE to win 18 matches in a row with the deck, it's not impossible to flip 18 coins at once and get all heads it's just not going to happen. I mean if it was even a real deck it might be different, but not magnivore not gonna happen.
by MW|Core on 2006-03-31 14:23 CET
you can win 18 matches in a row with any given deck just like you can flip 18 coins and get heads 18 times (not that it´s the same but...)
by iKe on 2006-03-31 21:11 CET
Alright pretty cool Good Job
by Lyjo on 2006-04-01 02:45 CET
As a player accused falsely of "backwashing", I hope this new program prevents it from happening again. Sometimes a top deck is a top deck and sometimes "Magnivore" plays 5 Boomerang/stonerain effects in a row!
by synch987 on 2006-04-01 11:19 CET
the VAST majority of people cant be arsed to cheat, but i think this will put sore losers into their place
by Dzy on 2006-04-02 12:54 CET
"When a cheat program is detected, a message appears in Apprentice as before."
by Paskins_Appr on 2006-07-22 04:04 CET
by akdb8r on 2006-09-10 01:59 CET
I just downloaded and ran the program; it seems decent.
by Bona on 2006-10-19 19:47 CET
People, PG and PV are TWIN BROTHERS!!
by Equinox- on 2006-12-27 13:10 CET
I love how you guys are talking about PV here even though he top 8ed worlds. I'd love to see someone who cheats do that.
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