These Legacy Magic: the Gathering Deck lists of the Wednesday, July 4 Legacy +M13 #mag Trial were updated by niknight.
| 1st | Omniscience Combo | RAC | Legacy Deck |
| 2nd | RUG Delver | FDB | Legacy Deck |
| Top 4 | RUG Delver | Duodax | Legacy Deck |
| Top 4 | Merfolk | FinnF | Legacy Deck |
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checoso on 2012-07-05 01:24 CET GJ RAC!!!!
MoNoCraP TeaM RLZ!
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Duodax on 2012-07-05 01:54 CET So you replace Sneak Attack which is a enabler with a card that does nothing? How the hell can that win...
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mister_milk on 2012-07-05 01:58 CET Its strictly better than Sneak Attack, because not only do you get to play all of your cantrips for free, you get to actually cast emrakul and ulamog, getting the extra turn and removal.
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kreff on 2012-07-05 02:02 CET well... u can hardcast sneak attack but im sure you will have hard to hardcast omniscience :S
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RAC on 2012-07-05 02:08 CET The deck is amazing, omniscience solve the problem of karakas and with an Emrakul is win. The problem is that you have less win conditions but the combo works, you can win in turn 1 and It have some advantages and disadvantages. My results were:
- 2-0 vs BUG
- 2-0 vs Stax (In the 1st game he played an Humility and I won thanks an ulamog)
- 2-0 vs Merfolks
- 2-0 vs Merfolks
- 2-1 vs RUG Delver
I lost in the last pairing when my opp countered x2 Show and Tell. I think that this is the main problem, because without Show and Tell you are dead.
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SteveMan on 2012-07-05 02:54 CET God damn Ulamog!
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Yeahbuddie on 2012-07-05 02:54 CET I think u can't remove a preordain and add a spell pierce, spell pierce seems very good in the deck and u can usually do show and tell with four mana with spell pierce up and fow maybe. Spell pierce resolves a lot, cause turn 1 u can have 1 mana up spell pierce thoughtseize or a brainstorm, that's rilevant.
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Yeahbuddie on 2012-07-05 02:56 CET can*
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RAC on 2012-07-05 02:59 CET Yes, I should do some changes in the list. I played It without testing enough (Just 1 morning). The sideboard should be different too.
Thanks for your opinion Yeahbuddie ^^
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darkwizard42 on 2012-07-05 03:34 CET Awesome top deck, but now if they counter Show and Tell... you lose? Seems a little fragile, but clearly powerful indeed.
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AxiomBlurr on 2012-07-05 03:49 CET Oh how I hate Eldrazi Deck Wins, let me count the ways...
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Yeahbuddie on 2012-07-05 03:56 CET yeah true,it's pretty fragile. then u can try 4 spell pierce ;)
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DaveLombJr on 2012-07-05 08:45 CET omniscience? whats that
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DonDiggy on 2012-07-05 09:10 CET One thing to clearify first. Duodax is deadly wrong if he seriously thinks Omniscience is crap.
However, im kinda suprised that somebody tried to make it work in SnT. I'm currently playing it in DreamHalls. Imagine Omniscience+Sparkcaster, 2-Card-Combo for the Instant Win. And with that Combo, there are so many free Slots to fill up with Protection, you could even use a wishbox. It takes full advantage of conflux without the obligatory dreamhalls-discard.
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Terri on 2012-07-05 11:07 CET the bad thing on omniscience is you cant ever cast in a normal game. you can only get it into play through show and tell. sneak attack basically is the 2nd show and tell.
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Spyx on 2012-07-05 12:46 CET Omniscience is basically a 3 card combo since you need the show & tell to get in into play AND something to win the game with. Sneak Attack, Hive Mind and Dream Halls are all waaaaaaaaaay better due to castability.
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Pokemaster on 2012-07-05 13:09 CET Well the third card is not hard to get with omniscience, you have 9 of then, 3 cantrips and a tutor.
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kumagmd on 2012-07-05 15:35 CET Omniscience on the board = win.
Unless all you have in your hand are sucky cards.
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Cafe_Cafe on 2012-07-05 16:29 CET Congrats FDB!
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MitchMachine on 2012-07-05 17:07 CET I agree on sneak attack, hive mind and dream halls being strictly better
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Clarinetist on 2012-07-05 17:23 CET Dream halls, and, to a significantly lesser effect, Hive Mind potentially give your opponent some advantage though, right? Sneak Attack obviously doesn't have that problem, but is still castable, which is probably why it's the current deck to beat?
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Stucco on 2012-07-05 17:33 CET Sneak Attack and Dream Halls are better. Omniscience is better than Hive Mind since blowing up a Hive Mind is an auto-loss next turn.
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Burton911 on 2012-07-05 18:15 CET And people always try to convince me that Legacy players are not just a bunch of kiddys trying to stick the most awesome card to the table, regardless if it makes any sense actually ...
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legacydude34 on 2012-07-05 18:58 CET Sneak attack isn't even close to the deck to beat
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SteveMan on 2012-07-05 19:14 CET It's definitely one of them
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Ryk on 2012-07-05 20:08 CET Gj RAC ^^
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Taodd on 2012-07-05 21:03 CET All of the different options have their advantages. You can pithing needle sneak attack. You can Karakas an Emrakul put into play off of sneak attack. Sneak attack requires either an extra mana that turn to activate or you wait a turn, and if you only have the 1 leftover red the turn you put it out the ability can be stifled. But you can cast sneak attack.
With Omniscience you don't have the kill card in hand right then because you can cast all your cards for free still, often letting you dig into the kill card immediately. Your force of wills and misdirections don't cost another card in hand and so on. Basically even if you don't kill them immediately with it you gain a big advantage. The cast triggers from the eldrazi are stupid good ect...
tl;dr version: Reliance on show and tell vs more secure win and advantage even if a creature isn't in hand.
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legacydude34 on 2012-07-05 21:21 CET no it isn't one of the decks to beat, did u not just look at the gp results? RUG Delver, Stoneblade, and Maverick put up way higher numbers. Sneak and Show is at best tier two right now.
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Burton911 on 2012-07-05 22:36 CET is it really that hard to understand that Sneak Attack or Omnisience is not the question since both just serve different purposes?
Omnisience might be a valid sideboard card since it seems to beat a few hatecards but, its definitly no Sneak Attack replacement. If someone dont (want to) understand that i cant help him.
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DonDiggy on 2012-07-05 23:05 CET Toadd thx for pointing out the truth.
Omniscience does everything that Sneak and DH can, but it does it without any drawbacks and with all the casting benefits. Thats an incredible advantage and you simply gain it by a small disadvantage, not being able to hardcast it. Since both SnT and Dreamhalls are Combopiles, you shouldnt stick to "if it doesnt work out with show and tell". Thats bullshit thinking. I'd rather say: Hell if I miss on the Show&Tells I'll be damned, but if it resolves there's no chance in hell my opponent will win this bitch."
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pg8 on 2012-07-06 00:39 CET I would try fetching Omniscence with Academy Rector, but I just can't see it being better than Shared Fate. But seriously, just play Dream Halls.
