by Duodax on 2009-04-26 16:08 EST

1st. Lost to Zoo with Zoo -_-

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by Pikanso on 2009-04-26 16:36 EST

Why name deck is PLU is no NLB ?

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by Eldariel on 2009-04-26 17:04 EST

It's Previous Level Blue - Next Level Blue was the deck with Counterbalance, PLU eschewing it for traditional counters, so all the blue Goyf-decks presently in the format are PLU. As for "NLB", that's not used just because it's not Next Level Black.

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by hawt on 2009-04-26 17:48 EST

zoo < doran -=-0

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by LinkSpitfire on 2009-04-26 19:24 EST

Did anyone see/play with any ARB-cards?

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by trueeevil on 2009-04-26 20:10 EST

zoo needs more bloodbraid elf

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by Eldar on 2009-04-26 21:15 EST

That version is Next Level Blue (NLU) because it doesn't run more counterspells and such. The Previous Level Blue decks ran 16+ counters primarily killed with shackles/goyf only.

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by Verdana on 2009-04-26 21:42 EST

the main difference between PLU and NLU was no counterbalance vs counterbalance. so NLU doesn't exist in extended anymore.

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by Beto_cL on 2009-04-26 22:22 EST

brayan :O

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by Spyx on 2009-04-26 23:26 EST

Bloodbraid elf seems better then ranger in the midgame, but worse in the lategame (when you can cast those 2 nacatls right away).
Only time it sucks is when the elf gets you another jitte when you have one.
Still I think the elf might replace ranger.

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by Lethe on 2009-04-27 09:31 EST

Wasn't the difference last season that PLU ran spire golem and fact or fiction while NLU ran visions and splashed green/black for goyf, rude awakening and tsabo's decree? Countertop was a different deck entirely, iirc, embodied best as chase rare control.

That's why I never understood why they call it NLU in legacy, since it has nothing in common with last season's extended NLU.

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by Comodope on 2009-04-27 12:54 EST

I played Bloodbraid Elf instead of Ranger of Eos, but it sucked

1.) Ethersworn Canonist=gayness
2.) Cop:red=gayness
3.) lategame=gayness
4.) randomness=gayness

It`s only a lil bit faster, but Ranger is for the lategame anyway.

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by Eldariel on 2009-04-27 15:21 EST

Lethe: No. Next Level Blue was Chapin's "innovation" on Counterbalance + Tarmogoyf-based effective "chase rare control". Then, "Previous Level Blue" was the moniker given to Counterbalanceless variants opting for more actual counters that premiered in the next GP/PT (can't remember).

Spire Blue and the Ug control variants are a different archetype entirely, tending towards being true control-decks rather than aggro/control like the Some Level Blue-piles. By the way, Mono-Blue was much better without the shitty Golems.


As for Legacy, it's the Coverage-people who didn't know Legacy deck names (the archetype is called "Baseruption") that tended towards the closest Extended equivalents, hence the name.

The name is rather accurate though because it is built around Tarmogoyf & Countertop along with blue control shell.

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by Lethe on 2009-04-27 15:54 EST

Oh ok, thanks for the clarification, especially regarding Baseruption, which I was never quite sure on.

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