by Lantero on 2008-04-21 10:02 MDT

Congratz to all.

4 Dragon's Claw and 4 Primal Command? Woa.

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by Araeliz on 2008-04-21 10:04 MDT

I guess that massive hate is the way to beat mono red, eh?

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by Kai_ on 2008-04-21 10:16 MDT

Is it worthy to splash white, only for 3 oblivion ring?

What do you bring it against?

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by Canabiest on 2008-04-21 10:40 MDT

I don't think so.
It worked against Bitterblossom once and can take care of Planeswalkers.

I did not build the deck myself, just copied it from the top four of another trial half a minute before this one began. I needed a deck fast and wanted Merfolk this is just the first version to come my way in the hurry, but it worked, so I am not complaining.
I was never really happy with the Ponder, maybe it should be Aquitects Will.

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by Tms-Rock on 2008-04-21 11:03 MDT

Yeah i'v been saying that alot lately about the Ponders Vs Aquitects will, I think Aquitects will would be better, expessially vs decks like elves and etc so that u can island walk past there Beefy Creatures. Splashing white is good, not for oblivion ring tho, Burrenton Forge Tender is so good in the red match-ups, and i'v been testing krakens eye over dragons claw for FNMs and Online, i find it alot more effective in the aggro match-ups and even in the RDW match-up.

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by poopascoopa on 2008-04-21 11:08 MDT

Primal Command should be Incinerate. Primal Command is so bad. Obviously, you were very lucky.

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by thedarkness on 2008-04-21 11:21 MDT

If you find Kraken's Eye to be "a lot more effective vs aggro and rdw," you need to test more.

Why you would board life gain into an aggro deck AGAINST an aggro deck is beyond me, and you lack to ability to cast 3456 spells a turn like burn most of the time, so more often than not the Eye will be totally useless.

Your opponents must be fairly awful if you've come to this conclusion.. o.O

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by medd99 on 2008-04-21 11:29 MDT

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by stone_d on 2008-04-21 11:53 MDT

RG mana ramp runs 4 cloudtresher 3 blast and even 1 blast and 4 squall lines in sb.

Isn't that a little to much?

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by Canabiest on 2008-04-21 11:55 MDT

Flashfreeze helps vs. Elves or Manaramp also because it can counter green spells.

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by medd99 on 2008-04-21 13:23 MDT

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by Canabiest on 2008-04-21 13:36 MDT

Calm down! No need to get all angry with capslock.

As I said I did not build the deck. I only boarded in the Claws once against monored, where they won the game. Flashfreeze was used more often as a two mana counterspell. It could have been another Remove Soul or Rune Snag most of the time but it is good to have many counterspells for a cheap price.

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by gypsy on 2008-04-21 13:41 MDT

by poopascoopa on 2008-04-21 11:08 MDT

Primal Command should be Incinerate. Primal Command is so bad. Obviously, you were very lucky.


obviously your dumb and dont realise how good command is

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by Lantero on 2008-04-21 14:04 MDT

Yep. Only in the mirror is like a 3 x 1. So brutal.

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by DavenfrostGK on 2008-04-21 14:19 MDT

Kai_on, sos Carlos Rama???

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by medd99 on 2008-04-21 15:55 MDT

Ok so everyone will be playing dragons claw in the board's to try and beat all the red decks and does it really do the job ?

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by TugaChampion on 2008-04-21 16:55 MDT

"it just make's no since"

nice English by BEnglish!

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by center425 on 2008-04-21 18:40 MDT

thedarkness, the Dragon's Claw was not meant for an aggro red deck, it was meant for the burn deck. Like the heavy burn deck from the Japneses GP, that's why gerryT put it in there.

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by aldaryn on 2008-04-21 19:34 MDT

gerryT has a foul mouth

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by d3m0n on 2008-04-22 02:56 MDT

Primal Command was insane all the day ....
All my luck was that i had a lot of mono R matches.
If i would play that deck again I would do some changes ...
Main: -1 Cloudtresher + 1 Sulfurous Blast
SB: -1 Sulfurous Blast -1 Squall Line + 1 Stuffy Doll + (Krosan Grip OR Detritivore)

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by gypsy on 2008-04-22 03:34 MDT

was scrying sheets good? i used to play it in my ramp list but im not sure if its good right now

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by Lantero on 2008-04-22 05:44 MDT

I play 3 mouth of ronom instead of 2 and 1 scrying. U usually dont have time to take advantage from sheets and most of times is better have a 3rd removal. Also u "only" play 20 snow permanents (Treetops, no coldsteel heart or phyrexian ironfoot). I´m not sure about it, but i think is the best option.

@Demon: 1 Detritivore on SB is awesome in mirror match or some other control pairing. It's an unexpected play that can give u the late game control.

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by Daveslusher- on 2008-04-22 09:36 MDT

omg the mirror killer is acid-moss vore is fine i just cant believe that people cut moss when it takes out their splash land and accels you. also, molten should go back to maindeck now because of the prevalence of elves and merfolk.

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by Cosmo on 2008-04-22 10:29 MDT

buena cuervito ;)

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by el_cuervito on 2008-04-22 11:50 MDT

jajaja cosmo..cuando estes en el mirc o del chat de la pagina entra a #hispanos :D

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by gypsy on 2008-04-22 12:14 MDT

u dont need disaster, blast is rly good vs those decks anyway

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by meloku79 on 2008-04-22 14:43 MDT

I agree w/ gypsy, u dont need disasters, blasts are very good against elves and merfolk. I like stuffy doll in the board over acid moss in the mirror. Stuffy doll owns the mirror! Your mana ramp opp. cant get rid of it and it chumps thresher and goyfs all day, not to mention the use of skred w/ it :)

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by DAUBE on 2008-05-06 09:49 MDT

Go Go Mae

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