Inv7th Extended Deck lists: Flow Rock, Sea Stompy, GW Wisp

by TwoTrees on 2008-03-14 17:42 MDT

That looks like a really good 1st place deck.
My sideboard was absolutely terrible today, don't copy it.

by r0fl on 2008-03-14 17:44 MDT

how did he get 2nd without kiki

by Trotsky1 on 2008-03-14 18:18 MDT

Is pestermite really good enough to be in the deck in extended as much as I love it with out the combo?

by MotC on 2008-03-14 19:11 MDT

that build of sea stompy needs kiki jiki

by BloodyAngel on 2008-03-14 20:28 MDT

no tarmo on that rock, im amazed, nice deck for the meta right now

by dv8r on 2008-03-14 20:55 MDT

that first place deck is absolutely ingenious, I don't wanna sound condescending... but well done...

by Spyx on 2008-03-14 21:31 MDT

3rd place is armadillo cloak.dec?

by Chibu on 2008-03-14 21:38 MDT

spirit.dec ftw!

by sui_slush on 2008-03-14 22:14 MDT

the deck is called spirit stompy.

by Bozo on 2008-03-14 22:49 MDT

I think 2 Saffi 4 Goyf would be better than 3 saffi 3 Goyf. Just a thought.

by dv8r on 2008-03-14 23:25 MDT

I disagree, goyf doesn't return teeg vs combo and dron

by Dakh on 2008-03-14 23:42 MDT

kiki jiki is terrible 2rrr when i cast it?

by gypsy on 2008-03-14 23:52 MDT

u dont rly need kiki jiki its like a win more card

by corbox on 2008-03-15 00:50 MDT

gg all

just GW wisp is lmao! wisp, kami are not good cards in the metagame, even if he had the luck to play vs flow rock, that's still too weak (just my opinion then).

I love flow rock but building it without any chrome mox make it weaker, really... it's so good to have the possibility to put flow turn 2 !!!! but then i must say greetings because you were one of the rare courageous to put out this fuc...g goyf !!!

by gypsy on 2008-03-15 02:21 MDT

wisp is good if u play vs lots of red, and kami is amazing vs ideal. the super fast flow rock sucks the slower ones are much better.

by Eldariel on 2008-03-15 02:27 MDT

Actually, Wisp took the most Top 8s out of all PTQs last week. Don't underestimate it. Worship/Troll is simple 'I win' against many decks and a 4/4 Teeg or Teeg + Saffi does huge damage too.

I personally would drop red splash (you're favored against red decks anyways, so 'Clasm is weak) and play Mutavaults to improve the control-MU. But yea, the deck is solid (although MD Chants is a clear mistake).

by corbox on 2008-03-15 02:31 MDT

first : ideal is not as played as it used to be a few weeks ago so building a good sb (with good cards against ideal if you fear it that much) is much better.
second : bulding a deck by putting cards against 2 match-ups is so so noobish ... i really prefer cards useful against many decks. then the side again will make the difference.

Then i'll say i'll accept your opinion, we are here for that ...

by gypsy on 2008-03-15 03:51 MDT

yes but kami of ancient law is also a good engine card for the deck as its a 2 drop spirit and its good vs flow, ideal, next level blue, etc.

by TugaChampion on 2008-03-15 05:46 MDT

corbox obv missed the fact that Kami of Ancient Law is a spirit so it triggers Tallowisp.
Go read Mike Flores article and you'll see that in one PTQ the finals were a mirror of Spirit Stompy!
I would consider playing it at the last PTQ I'm attending but given the poor match up it has against Death Cloud I would rather just play Death Cloud (and I won't play it anyway I'll play something else still to be decided).

That Flow Rock is more like a DeathCloud deck with Destructive Flow.

I don't really know what are Death Cloud's worst match ups so that Flow is really necessary but BG doesn't have mana problems so the only loss here is the bounce lands making Death Cloud a bit worse and that's why he only plays 1. Still if I was gonna play Death Cloud I wouldn't put Flow because the deck can't play it on turn 2 (BoP and Mox are not synergetic with this deck) and because the power of bounce lands + garruk into death cloud is amazing.

The super fast flow deck aka JustusGoyfs which is an more like a loam/flow hybrid is good although a bit inconsistent.

by gypsy on 2008-03-15 06:12 MDT

death clouds bad matchups are every deck that isnt another form of rock aka every deck thats good. cloud is so overrated its unreal, and why does everyone hate on flow decks that dont have mox or birds, turn 2 flow isnt neede when u can have a better late game which is relevant to most of the feild besides teps and ideal. turn 2 skaura into turn 3 duress/seize plus flow is better than getting clunky draws with birds mox and then having no preassure

by TwoTrees on 2008-03-15 11:02 MDT

Eldariel.
MD orim's chant won me 2 matches.
1 VS ideal
1 vs control where i chanted then dropped a troll and a cloak.

You are right though, the red splash didn't do shit. My sideboard sucks.

by Boba383 on 2008-03-16 03:29 MDT

ya ive been messin around with the Spirit stompy deck too and it is quite good...though i just got my ass handed to me by an elf/insect deck (theres no way to deal with all the tokens it produced with wirewood hivemaster)

mayb sb pyroclasm??? and ive found dwarven blastminer to be sumwat pointless...in the matchups against tron all it does rele is draw out a counter (a good thing no doubt) but i usually just use it as a way to put force a creature or a cloak out

ya im usin the wish board version of Spirit stompy though too

by Eldariel on 2008-03-16 08:43 MDT

Just get a Dillo Cloak or Griffin Guide out and you win against an Elf-pile. Heck, Worship should be game before side.

TwoTrees: I still claim the slots can be used better. Chant isn't a bad card, but it feels suboptimal in a deck going for permanent power.

by ebbitten on 2008-03-16 10:52 MDT

Well i think it was just a straight net deck off of mtg.com so obviously the sb/md isn't tuned for m-l meta.

by Boba383 on 2008-03-16 13:51 MDT

haha except i did get cloaks out all three games (i did win pre board)

and my deck doesnt have worship in it so thats y i had no way to stop him with it. like i said ive got the version with the wishboard (and its not a straight copy ive changed sum stuff in it i just havent run into random elf-pile decks yet)

overall i like the deck though its pretty good

by Ownj00 on 2008-03-17 08:25 MDT

1st: why even bother with corbox. anyone who hasn't seen spirit stompy by now clearly isn't on top of the format.

2nd: if you're splashing red in spirit stompy, perhaps boil would be better then blastminer?

3rd: ugh, pestermite without kiki-jiki. and then adding 4 stifles main? seems really underwhelming.

by Euge on 2008-03-17 15:43 MDT

all the people who thinks that sea stompie needs kiki never played it. that's for sure. the list is mine and this build so tempo oriented it's really good both against control and aggro. maybe i should add something more to deal with dredge.
GJ dahk